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Daddydogg 04-03-2016 02:45 PM

Artillery Luger Cleaning Rod Disassembly
 
How do you disassemble an Artillery Luger wooden handle cleaning rod?

I have an Artillery cleaning rod with a nice handle but a broken steel rod. I would like to salvage the handle and replace the rod. Anyone have any experience on how to do this without damaging the handle? Thanks for any suggestions.

Daddydogg

lugerholsterrepair 04-03-2016 03:29 PM

Dog, There is no real way without drilling out the peened over top. Then you have the re assembly by peening on the new rod. Only guy I know who has real experience with this is Neil Young.

Norme 04-03-2016 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Daddydogg (Post 286426)
How do you disassemble an Artillery Luger wooden handle cleaning rod?

I have an Artillery cleaning rod with a nice handle but a broken steel rod. I would like to salvage the handle and replace the rod. Anyone have any experience on how to do this without damaging the handle? Thanks for any suggestions.

Daddydogg

Hi Joseph, I shouldn't really be suggesting this, but if your rod is broken off near the tip it would be far simpler to convert it to a Navy rod.
Regards, Norm

ithacaartist 04-03-2016 07:55 PM

I'm curious as to the location of the break...is it near the tip, perhaps one of the rings, which are of course reduced diameter?

lugerholsterrepair 04-03-2016 07:58 PM

I'm curious to know HOW a rod like this could ever be broken anywhere..That's a serious piece of steel.

Daddydogg 04-03-2016 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 286447)
I'm curious as to the location of the break...is it near the tip, perhaps one of the rings, which are of course reduced diameter?

It broke at the distal portion of the length of the smooth rod. At the second full turn of the screw segment.

Daddydogg 04-03-2016 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 286447)
I'm curious as to the location of the break...is it near the tip, perhaps one of the rings, which are of course reduced diameter?

At the second ring of the screw portion of the rod.

Daddydogg 04-03-2016 09:40 PM

Pictures of the break
 
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This is the first time I have tried to upload pictures. If they came through, the pictures will say it all.

Daddydogg 04-03-2016 09:42 PM

Murphy's Law.

Norme 04-03-2016 09:53 PM

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Hi Joseph, It seems to me that you have enough left to fashion a full length Navy rod. Navy rods are 207mm from tip to butt (or from stem to stern as they say in the Navy). The threaded portion including the 9mm ferule at the tip is 62mm. I'm enclosing the Navy rod blueprint for the early brass zig-zag version, but the dimensions are the same as for the later steel version.
Regards, Norm

lugerholsterrepair 04-03-2016 10:19 PM

Hard to tell but it looks like a reproduction rod..there;s little profit in it if it is. Unless you have nothing better to do.

Daddydogg 04-03-2016 10:42 PM

Proof marks are on the wooden handle and on the shaft of the metal rod.

lugerholsterrepair 04-03-2016 10:48 PM

My Bad! As you were.

George Anderson 04-04-2016 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 286465)
Well now we know it;s a repro.

Why a repro Jerry?

lugerholsterrepair 04-04-2016 11:46 AM

Sorry George..I jumped to a foolish conclusion. Lost my mind. Please disregard!

Neil Young 04-04-2016 01:55 PM

Don't feel bad Jerry. It happens to all of us--well, all of those who are willing to admit it. Heck, I only rarely come out of the fog.

wlyon 04-04-2016 02:22 PM

Neil : After a certain age why even bother?????? Bill

Ron Wood 04-04-2016 04:05 PM

Neil & Bill: The fog is a happy place :). I choose to reject most reality and substitute my own. :)

Daddydogg 04-07-2016 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Norme (Post 286462)
Hi Joseph, It seems to me that you have enough left to fashion a full length Navy rod. Navy rods are 207mm from tip to butt (or from stem to stern as they say in the Navy). The threaded portion including the 9mm ferule at the tip is 62mm. I'm enclosing the Navy rod blueprint for the early brass zig-zag version, but the dimensions are the same as for the later steel version.
Regards, Norm

Hello Norm,

Well I took the rod and compared it to a navy holsters' cleaning rod pouch. The fit is perfect. So much so that I wonder if the rod was intentionally broken off at that length, for use with a navy holster. For now I think I will not make any attempt to further modify it. Thanks for your insight and comments.

Best regards,
Joe G.


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