Partial S/N Suffix
 

First off, a big shout out to all in providing the wealth of info found on this forum. I'm looking for a confirmation as to the suffix on my commercial .30 cal Luger. It looks like it may have been a partial strike of the letter stamp. I reviewed the script letters on the Technical information page, and luckily found a post directing me to further examples. I believe it is an "O", but I will defer to masses.

I'm no expert, but it looks like an "o" to me, as well.
I agree, it looks like it was not fully punched.

Partial stamp of an X or O? Add to the bottom and the possibilities are limiteless. I'm just not seeing a double stamp.
dju

made it where you get notified of postings :)

It would help to know WHAT it belongs to? DATE? Caliber? Markings? An 'O' suffix would not be certain years, so we can also narrow it down a bit ...

I think it's a "O", but please give us some more details and close up pictures of the gun, oherwise a partial "O" or a partial anything else hasn't got much sense..

IMHO the suffix letter in this example is a "O"... after refreshing my mind with the suffix charts in the Technical Info section, I can't see how it could be anything else.

Just my $0.02

Still partial to that X myself, as shown on Gortz' chart. Unfortunately, the letter is a bit low, right on the radius of the curve, making for a difficult, full, strike.
Just my $.02, and besides, once we know the year, that may rule me out as well.
dju

You can't tell the year of an Alphabet Commercial without knowing the suffix letter.
Norm

AE, Your suffix letter is definately an "O". The alphabet commericals began production at 2000 i in 1923, so your O block pistol would be about 60,000 guns into the series (no J block) starting in 1923. If you assume a production rate of about 10K per year, that would make your pistol approximately a 1928 production. TH

Norm, I agree, but more info, markings, proofs, etc - would show us thats its not a WW1 example that was sent to the USA

more info is helpful

Thank you all for the quick responses. It is a DWM commercial in 30 cal. Seems to have the 86 stamped on the pieces that I can see. Vertical N with crown above take down lever and the same on the breechblock. I've attached a few pics, please let me know if you need a specific view.

What is this?

I have never seen anything marked here before :confused:

Borrowed Dwights words So, what letters are looking like an 'o' from i to q

o
p
q

So, I would say since p was not used and q is questionable - that I agree with the above :)

Germany

I have a much earlier Alphabet Luger (i suffix) produced in 1921. On my Luger the suffix is not only on the frame, but also on the barrel below the serial number. I do not know if this was changed in later commercial production Lugers, but if not, your suffix should be there also. Someone will be along to educate me if the later commercial Lugers dropped this method of marking.

I respectfully disagreed. The last three letters appeared to be "EED"


BUT

A H H .... I see. It IS "GERMANY" in all caps but upside down! :surr:

Nice uncluttered looking gun. Sort of nice without all those markings...

Gents, I hate to admit it, but I think I officially have egg on my face with my first post on LugerForum..... In reading Rhuff's post about a S/N and suffix on the bottom of the barrel, I immediately checked mine, and there were no markings. That's when it hit me, the upper assembly I have had for years is not the original. It is a 9mm upper that I bought to take advantage of cheap ammo. The original .30 cal upper was sitting in the safe. Low and behold there is a S/N with a perfectly formed "O" suffix under the barrel. So much for my mantra of searching for an answer before you ask others (as I initiate the walk of shame). I do thank all of you for your replies.

I see it all so clearly, now.
dju

Examples ~http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.c...bie/script.htm