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juliuscaesar31544 12-01-2015 01:01 PM

Clarification: K & G Dates
 
I'm familiar with the generally accepted reason given for substituting the letters K and G for 1934 and 1935, but, try as hard as I might, I cannot see how this would fool even the most imbecilic bureaucrat.
Can someone help me out?
Thanks
Dan

hayhugh 12-01-2015 01:08 PM

Who you calling an imbecile?

Edward Tinker 12-01-2015 01:38 PM

Dan, you have to realize that they were just throwing people off. Besides the K & G being dates, the names of the company were hidden by codes. This was across the spectrum of almost all businesses. The allieis were aware of this deception, but since it was designed to just throw them off the trail, it worked IMHO.

juliuscaesar31544 12-01-2015 05:36 PM

Thank You, Ed
 
I appreciate the response to my question. You've reinforced what I've thought all along.
Happy Holidays
Dan

4 Scale 12-03-2015 10:56 PM

The best seller "In the Garden of Beasts" by Eric Larson describes Germany through the eyes of American Ambassador Dodd and his family during the 1930s. The book notes the American consul in Stuttgart (50 miles from Mauser/Oberndorf) sent a secret communique to the American Embassy in Berlin, September 1933, saying that Mauser had sharply increased arms production. In August 1934 Dodd's correspondence includes a cable to Washington stating that Germany was re-arming "feverishly".

Whether the K and G and manufacturer code subterfuge confused anyone I don't know, and I see no reference in the book to Lugers specifically, but clearly the U.S. Govt. was generally aware of German rearmament as early as 1933-34 time frame.

I highly recommend the book to anyone interested in 1930s Germany.

I had wondered the same thing myself and your question made me dig out the book and search for "Mauser", thanks

Sergio Natali 12-04-2015 03:25 AM

The original question about K and G codes was absolutely right, perhaps that was some sort of "open secret", but let's not forget to consider that at the time spy planes and especially spy satellites didn't exist.

kurusu 12-04-2015 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by luger.parabellum (Post 280882)
The original question about K and G codes was absolutely right, perhaps that was some sort of "open secret", but let's not forget to consider that at the time spy planes and especially spy satellites didn't exist.

Neither did the "allies" exist at the time. Everybody was expecting Hitler to go after the soviets so they were turning a blind eye to the German rearmament.

juliuscaesar31544 12-04-2015 08:47 PM

Thank You
 
Thanks to all of you for your helpful responses. I have read In The Garden Of Beasts. Terrific book.

alanint 12-05-2015 11:31 AM

Let's also keep in mind that these were simpler times. There was no mass communication, nor sources for research. Gentlemen did not read another's mail. These codes may have had some deception effect, since there were few ways of verifying what was going on.


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