Help with a M1 Carbine
 

In my searching for Lugers, I came across a World War II carbine. The rear sight covers the manufacturer but it appears to be an Inland Division. The serial number is 3089124. There are very few markings. The barrel has a mark on the top that looks like a P over a W encircled with an oval circle. There may also be an "I" in the circle. Other that than there is an M with a small wa on the mag release. The rifle is in wonderful condition. No marks on the stock.
If anyone can shed any light on what have, I would be very appreciated. BTW, the pawn shop where I purchased it priced it at $400.00.

Mike

Mike,
a 3,089,000 carbine was made at Inland.
the markings on the barrel are winchester.
Barrels were shipped from mfg. to mfg. to keep the lines running, but a winchester bbl on an
inland is unusual.

So it could be re-barreled, but at $400 it is about half price of a shooter US made WWII carbine.
Nice catch!

Mike:
I looked at the info on my Carbine. I don't know the number schemes but I have 4,2xx,xxx and it is a U.S. Postage Meter item; Don't know when it was made. Mine is nice and shoots like a champ. Your Inland Division is a General Motors. They used sub-contractors somewhat.
The real test is: how it shoots and looks nice.
In my book, it looks very much like for $ 400 - you are stealing it. Pay, grab and run. don't look back.
Jack

Can you post pics?

Yes that is a steal if all USGI parts.

Gary et.al
Photos added.
Mike

I also agree that a Winchester barrel on an Inland is unusual.

The mag catch is also a Winchester part. The stock, although sanded, does have an ordnance wheel, so is genuine GI, dating from the WW2 era.

A real find for $400.

+1 stock is redone but still a good price, they are fun to shoot.

I always thought that they would be fun in 9mm Luger caliber, but that would require some extensive mods to the magazine... :(

I particularly like the Universal Enforcer model pistol, but I never got to shoot one. :(

http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/Universalstoegers.gif

I also thought that this model would be great in the MP-40 style folding stocks that were sold back in the 1970's...by Iver Johnson

http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploa...iversalpt3.jpg


Patty Hearst used one during a bank robbery while she was a "kidnap hostage"

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/C...b-ce207336e415

Mike,

Nice M1 Carbine.

As mentioned, if all USGI parts, you paid about half market price for it.

I particularly like the forged trigger groups.

The Inland division of GM is where they originated, and I believe that they eventually made the most. There was a second Inland plant at Saginaw Gear that made them too. My M1 came from IBM near the factory where I worked for many years in Poughkeepsie.

Rock-Ola; Underwood (my Typewriter Carbine); Winchester; Quality Hardware; Irwin-Pederson; National Postal Meter; and Standard Products were the major contractors.

The adjustable sight is a later part, with many originally shipped with "flip sights".

This website is a good one for you to study:

http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/manufacturers.html

Marc

The mag release marked M is for the 30 round mags.

If the sling has a C shaped metal end on it then it is WWII era if D shaped then post WWII.

Several GM divisions made M1's. Inland ( I ) made the most while Saginaw Steering Gear ( SG ) at Saginaw made some. GM took over production from Irwin Peterson ( IP ), and they became Saginaw at Grand Rapids ( S'G' ).

Mike:cheers:

I have an example of a Saginaw with IP marked parts.