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buster123 10-11-2015 09:16 AM

Help !
 
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Hi guys, I have bought this Luger and am confused with this gun ! It has 1920 stamped on the top, but I have been to that according to the serial no it was made just at the end of ww1, it has lazy n under crown proofs and the serial is 72828 . Any help in this would be great.

Vlim 10-11-2015 09:18 AM

1920 is a government property marking, not a production date. Although some pistols were actually produced in 1920 and 1921 and thus got a legit 1920 production date.

buster123 10-11-2015 09:48 AM

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Cheers mate, the property stamp ( or what I thought was a date) looks as if it was hand stamped as it's kinda of centre. It's DWM manufactured & all matching numbers apart from mag , that's 3rd reich issue.

Edward Tinker 10-11-2015 09:59 AM

welcome to the forum

you have not provided enough information to help a lot. We can say it is a five digit commercial model that possibly was in army issue so receiving the 1920 gov't marking. as that marking is a govt marking, not a date

many more pictures and words would help.

See 'how to ID a luger' sticky here on the new collectors board.

buster123 10-11-2015 07:51 PM

I think I have found the information I needed to date this gun! Thanks to this fine forum. Production ended in 1918 around 74722 with lazy m proofs on commercial guns, my guns serial is 72828 and has lazy proofs , so only 1894 ish from the end of production.!! Or am I missing something?

George Anderson 10-12-2015 03:09 AM

1914 Commercial.

Lugerdoc 10-12-2015 10:42 AM

i agree, that you have a M1914 commerical made before 1918, that may have been appropriated by the military during WW1 and marked as military property (1920 on the receiver) after the war. TH

mrerick 10-12-2015 11:03 AM

Hi Paul, and welcome to the forum.

You are correct about being near the end of that commercial production run.

"M1914" is a variation of Lugers which George also mentioned as "1914 Commercial".

As Tom and Ed mentioned, it saw a lot of history before making it into your family's hands. This gun is one instance where the additional mark (the 1920) adds to it's history...

Marc

Don M 10-12-2015 12:11 PM

The 1920 property stamp was also used by the police. However, sn suggests it may be Commercial Army. What stamps are on the right side of the receiver

buster123 10-12-2015 01:11 PM

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Hi, thanks for the warm welcome guys, there's. No marks on the right side of the reciever. But the left side has lazy m/ crown and hidden serial numbers on take down and side plate, also has crown/ m under barrel with serial number


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