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Sergio Natali 10-08-2015 03:12 AM

Sergeant York
 
I found this article about the famous Alvin C. York, I thought some of my LUGER friends would have been interested in reading it (sorry for the bad language that could have been avoided):


http://www.breachbangclear.com/bucke...erican-badass/



Sergio

DavidJayUden 10-08-2015 08:31 AM

It's always good to read about Sgt. York, but that article was written with such a vulgar slant that it sullies his name. My impression, be it right or be it wrong, that he was a much more devout man who hated the killing but did what needed to be done.

“Look dude, my actions on 8 October 1918 needed to get done by somebody, and that guy was me. Anyone could have done the same, and got the same medal. I’m just happy I got to do my job, and burn some would-be future Nazis down like an old wooden house. The free drinks and loose girls after the war were all I ever wanted.”

But anyway, thanks for sharing the read.
dju

cirelaw 10-08-2015 08:46 AM

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Sergio, if tyou don't mind I found a cleaner version~~http://www.sgtyorkdiscovery.com/The_York_Story.php

sheepherder 10-08-2015 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 278095)
It's always good to read about Sgt. York, but that article was written with such a vulgar slant that it sullies his name.

+ 1 :mad:

There are many articles and books detailing Sgt York's exploits, and I'm sure many have been 'sanitized' but the most popular image of him, I think, was immortalized in the 1941 movie "Sgt York" starring Gary Cooper. I saw this movie when I was very young, in the '50's, and I will still watch it today when it comes on. :thumbup:

I believe TCM [Turner Classic Movies] holds the rights to this movie now, which means it will be on probably every year during a Gary Cooper tribute.

Check out Amazon/IMDB's movie ad. :)

Edit: Idly checking IMDB's review, I noted a couple of interesting trivia facts...

The actual firearm used by Alvin C. York to dispose of a line of seven Germans was not a Luger as depicted in the film, but rather a 1911 .45 ACP automatic. The Luger was preferred for the filmmaking, however, purely on the basis that they couldn't get the .45 to fire blanks.

The film turned out to be a highly accurate representation of history, mainly because of the studio's fear of lawsuits. Alvin C. York and several of the townsmen in Tennessee, including the pastor who counseled him, refused to sign releases unless the film was portrayed accurately.

Sergio Natali 10-08-2015 11:35 AM

Sorry mates, I never use bad language either, since I sort of follow "GUNSITE Academy" articles yesterday they remembered Sergeant York, so I simly posted what they published.

By the way I still remember the first time I saw that film with Gary Cooper, I was just a child and I went to the pictures with my parents, nice memories.



Thanks and regards


Sergio

cirelaw 10-08-2015 11:48 AM

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Heres to you my friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1vYUn2PRas

cirelaw 10-08-2015 12:12 PM

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Seargent York Site~ http://www.sgtyork.org/legacyphotos.html

Ron Wood 10-08-2015 12:44 PM

I suspect that a lot of the vulgar language was the result of liberal editing of the original text by the vulgar owner of the website. I saw several instances of modern idiomatic expressions in the narrative that would not have been in use at the time of Sgt. York. It is a pity that some writers feel that they cannot adequately express their thoughts without resorting to filthy language. It is the mark of a small minded individual without the requisite language skills to write intelligently.

DonVoigt 10-08-2015 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 278108)
I suspect that a lot of the vulgar language was the result of liberal editing of the original text by the vulgar owner of the website. I saw several instances of modern idiomatic expressions in the narrative that would not have been in use at the time of Sgt. York. It is a pity that some writers feel that they cannot adequately express their thoughts without resorting to filthy language. It is the mark of a small minded individual without the requisite language skills to write intelligently.

+1, also sometimes called an "ignorant idiot".

DavidJayUden 10-08-2015 02:13 PM

All the language issues aside, Alvin York was a truly interesting and heroic individual who should not soon be forgotten.
dju

Sergio Natali 10-08-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 278119)
All the language issues aside, Alvin York was a truly interesting and heroic individual who should not soon be forgotten.
dju

I agree, especially because apparently he was praised for being a modest and unassuming person.


Sergio

Olle 10-08-2015 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 278108)
I suspect that a lot of the vulgar language was the result of liberal editing of the original text by the vulgar owner of the website. I saw several instances of modern idiomatic expressions in the narrative that would not have been in use at the time of Sgt. York. It is a pity that some writers feel that they cannot adequately express their thoughts without resorting to filthy language. It is the mark of a small minded individual without the requisite language skills to write intelligently.

If you follow the link to the diary you will find the very same "quotes" by Alvin York, but without the bad language. Seems like the author spiced up the original diary in an attempt to glorify Sgt York, but the end result it's more like sacrilege. I actually quit reading after a few paragraphs, it didn't really sound like a trustworthy source... and that's mildly put.

The diary was interesting though, it's a long read but most likely worth the time.

cirelaw 10-08-2015 09:50 PM

American WW1 war propaganda!

Zorba 10-09-2015 02:07 AM

I'm pretty much a potty mouth myself - but that article is just too much even for me. Entirely gratuitous.

MikeP 10-11-2015 03:33 AM

Soldiers using "filthy language," imagine that.

Ron Wood 10-11-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeP (Post 278220)
Soldiers using "filthy language," imagine that.

Probably not any more frequently than the general population. In the 20 years I served I never encountered any soldier that used as much profanity as in that article...and I seriously doubt that any of it can actually be attributed to Sgt. York.

cirelaw 10-11-2015 12:27 PM

Its easy when there was no one there to contest the assertions! In law its hearsay and not admisable!


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