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creature7 10-02-2015 02:56 AM

Need help identifying Luger. Please
 
I'm in the process of liquidating my grandmother's estate for her. She's moved into assisted living and it is quite expensive. I was given(by him when he was alive) two of my grandfather's Lugers but she wants to sell this one. I'd buy it but I can't swing it. He fought through the Battle of the Bulge and brought back a bunch of stuff.

Anyway, I've spent some time researching and I think I've figured out all I can. I hate to pester you guys with this inquiry but I really need to get this done for her. We're trying to figure out any information regarding identification and value. I would greatly appreciate the help.

The info I have is that it's a S/42 with a serial of 6251. It has all matching serial numbers and all the strawing seems to be intact. I have a leather holster and two magazines. It has multiple Nazi markings on it. From what I could find out that means it's a 1937 Mauser made Luger.

Here are some pictures:

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4odikfi5.jpg

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...psuftisq2n.jpg

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...psnkcklmn3.jpg

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...pslmzjx45f.jpg

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...pshhimjqei.jpg

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...psmcfuqjxf.jpg

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...psxjhe5vzc.jpg

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...psmpa5v60w.jpg

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...psfqdpxnqq.jpg

Again, we would greatly appreciate any information you guys could give us. Thanks

kurusu 10-02-2015 06:53 AM

You got it right. It's a 1937 Mauser made P08. Seems to be in original condition.
has the aluminiun bottom magazine a number matching to the gun?
The other one was most likely made in 1942.

jonnyc 10-02-2015 09:09 AM

Please forgive my intrusion, but I recently went through something similar with my uncle.
1. If your GF gave the pistols to you, it really doesn't matter what your GM wants to do with them. If you are paying the assisted-living bills it is then your decision.
2. The $2500(+-) that the pistol will bring isn't much along side the bills for a nursing home or assisted-living facility. The family history of the pistol might be worth more than the cash payment.
3. Not knowing your Medicare/Medicaid situation......if your goal is to divest enough for Medicaid to kick-in, the pistol is now your asset, not hers.

PS-I am not a lawyer, just had to recently deal with some similar issues.

mrerick 10-02-2015 10:54 AM

Hi James and welcome to the forum.

You have a 1937 Mauser made Luger. It is likely rust blued with strawed parts.

Post good evenly lit (outdoor indirect light, no flash) pictures showing closeups of the serial number with suffix letter in front of the trigger on the frame, and of the base of the aluminum bottom magazine.

The bakelite base magazine is valuable, particularly since it matches all 1941 and 1942 made Mauser lugers. Perhaps $250

Simpsons is selling a holster marked like yours made by Karl Böcker. He's asking $500 retail.

There were not many 1937 Strawed and Rust Blued Lugers made, and they are from just the first couple of months of that year - a year when they transitioned to salt blued finishes. $2000 or so with a non-matched magazine. Add another $750 with one matched properly.

That all makes this one more rare and more valuable... particularly if the aluminum base magazine is matching.

Collector to collector prices are about 30% less than retail.

If finances are an issue for your grandmother, you really need to consult someone. Start with some of the senior citizen offices at a county level and state offices for the aging for references.

creature7 10-02-2015 08:59 PM

Thank you so much for the information everyone. I'll take some more pictures tomorrow in the daylight and post them up. Thanks again, I really appreciate it.

DonVoigt 10-03-2015 09:38 PM

I guess your forgot the pictures, not that it is on sale on the "other" forum?

MikeP 10-03-2015 09:56 PM

I just went thru the estate liquidation thing for my mother.
She was no longer competant and I had to make evry dedcision about everything.
Not a pleasant moment involved.
If your GF gave you the guns, they are yours-is there a dispute?

The state will require your GM to have a mere pittance of anything before they step in and help.

I hope you hve not listed the guns as part of her possessions-does she know about this?

Sorry about her health, but time goes on and the value of these guns will be gone in one month if they are not in your possession.

creature7 10-03-2015 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick (Post 277864)
Hi James and welcome to the forum.

You have a 1937 Mauser made Luger. It is likely rust blued with strawed parts.

Post good evenly lit (outdoor indirect light, no flash) pictures showing closeups of the serial number with suffix letter in front of the trigger on the frame, and of the base of the aluminum bottom magazine.

The bakelite base magazine is valuable, particularly since it matches all 1941 and 1942 made Mauser lugers. Perhaps $250

Simpsons is selling a holster marked like yours made by Karl Böcker. He's asking $500 retail.

There were not many 1937 Strawed and Rust Blued Lugers made, and they are from just the first couple of months of that year - a year when they transitioned to salt blued finishes. $2000 or so with a non-matched magazine. Add another $750 with one matched properly.

That all makes this one more rare and more valuable... particularly if the aluminum base magazine is matching.

Collector to collector prices are about 30% less than retail.

If finances are an issue for your grandmother, you really need to consult someone. Start with some of the senior citizen offices at a county level and state offices for the aging for references.

I'm not sure if there's a letter or not but there IS a mark. It looks kind of like a bird almost. Here's a pic:

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...psazafxz3v.jpg

There's another number in between that mark and the serial on the bottom. It almost looks like "8,81" I can't tell if it's a comma or a partial number in between the two eights. Here's a pic:

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...psjht97pwj.jpg

You might have to save the pic on your PC in order to zoom in on it and see what I'm talking about.

I don't think the magazine is matching. Here is a pic of the base plate:

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...pssjfo5izk.jpg

tharpo 10-03-2015 10:32 PM

The letter suffix is a "r". So the serial number of your Luger is 6251r.

Tom

creature7 10-03-2015 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tharpo (Post 277963)
The letter suffix is a "r". So the serial number of your Luger is 6251r.

Tom

Thank you sir

Sieger 10-04-2015 10:26 PM

Hi,

This is a really beautiful Pistol, so don't give it away!!!


Sieger

alanint 10-05-2015 08:44 AM

Your magazine is also a desirable Nazi police issue, (although it appears to have been renumbered at some point, possibly post-war).

ithacaartist 10-05-2015 10:07 AM

The 8,81 is the bore diameter as measured at the factory, and a comma is correct.

Sergio Natali 10-05-2015 02:48 PM

James

Of course if you've taken a decision there is nothing we can do to make you change idea, but I think it's quite let go such a nice gun.


Best,


Sergio


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