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nukem556 05-25-2015 09:07 PM

What a Crock!
 
Simpson's is offering this high grade postwar Mauser for 7K...catch is, they keep the grips! This makes no sense to me, as the elephant they came from is long dead, and they obviously BOUGHT the gun with the grips...

http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...ducts_id=40556

Edward Tinker 05-25-2015 09:11 PM

There is a new regulation that they must follow?

Although the original restrictions have been amended.

Quote:

What’s allowed:
  • Ivory lawfully imported prior to the date the African elephant was listed in CITES Appendix I (January 18, 1990) – [seller must demonstrate]


nukem556 05-25-2015 09:14 PM

So any object that exists in the US made from ivory from now on can never be sold? Thats insane.....so then what DO they do with their unsellable ivory grips?

Edward Tinker 05-25-2015 09:16 PM

See this page:

http://www.fws.gov/international/tra...answers.html#2

nukem556 05-25-2015 09:21 PM

Was on the page as you typed......in the Governments' infinite wisdom, you can however go to Africa and SHOOT 2 elephants a year and bring the ivory back.

Edward Tinker 05-25-2015 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nukem556 (Post 271958)
Was on the page as you typed......in the Governments' infinite wisdom, you can however go to Africa and SHOOT 2 elephants a year and bring the ivory back.

yes, as usual with gov't, no sense is there :rolleyes:

DavidJayUden 05-25-2015 10:06 PM

Welcome to the world of CITES regulations. It's a shame how many species are severely harmed by restrictions on LEGAL hunting. Unintended consequences...
Also, don't blame Simpsons, Ltd. Their business world would end at the mere allegation of CITES improprieties.
dju

sheepherder 05-25-2015 10:22 PM

I'm not a collector and I sometimes get caught out by the more technical terms collectors use - Can someone explain "Factory engraved polished metal coin type metal finish" to me??? :confused:

Arizona Slim 05-25-2015 10:32 PM

Just curious but I wonder if it would be possible to skirt the law by giving the grips, free gratis, to the person that buys this particular Luger, say as an incentive? After all, freebies are given all the time to those that purchase many other items? :confused:

Lon

ithacaartist 05-25-2015 10:51 PM

That might work...but to suggest it in public gives it the jinx! Now the buyer will have P.E.T.A., the BATFE, and who knows else checking to see if the grips appear in the wrong hands!:evilgrin:

DavidJayUden 05-25-2015 11:03 PM

Skirting the CITES regs. is akin to having an unregistered machine gun. DON'T DO IT!
dju

TheRomanhistorian 05-25-2015 11:16 PM

That's a bloody shame to not get the grips with the pistol. There's something amazing about ivory (I have one of those old ivory scaled seven day straight razor sets) and something about a a Luger or Broomhandle merits the ivory.

cirelaw 05-26-2015 09:29 AM

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Here is the law~ http://thehill.com/regulation/admini...nals-overnight

cirelaw 05-26-2015 09:40 AM

The Law and NRA~~~https://www.nraila.org/articles/2014...ban-fact-sheet

Vlim 05-26-2015 12:03 PM

Even more funny is the fact that Mauser used mammoth ivory ;)

alvin 05-26-2015 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 271961)
Can someone explain "Factory engraved polished metal coin type metal finish" to me??? :confused:

Probably they refer to the dark grey color tone of this pistol. It looks like an old tarnished quarter coin.

Dwight Gruber 05-26-2015 11:53 PM

Iirc somewhere I read that the ban includes mammoth ivory.

--Dwight

Ron Wood 05-26-2015 11:55 PM

Mammoth ivory is OK.

ithacaartist 05-27-2015 02:41 AM

Well, then if Mauser used mammoth ivory, and mammoth ivory is OK (I've heard that too), then somebody oughta clue Simpson's in. ...or did I miss something?

Ben M. 05-27-2015 07:34 PM

also fossilized walrus ivory.


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