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FN in MT 05-02-2015 11:05 PM

Value of a repro flat board stock?
 
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I recently sold a reblued Luger for a friend and he also had a reproduction, flat board, naval stock.

It has an anchor on the top edge, behind the iron. And a small swastika on the bottom, again behind the iron.

What's a fair asking price for this?

FN in MT

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Edward Tinker 05-03-2015 12:12 AM

$100-$175 depending on the quality IMO

Lugerdoc 05-03-2015 07:58 AM

I've seen the correct dimention Odin repro Naval luger stocks selling for triple the above estimate. Tom

Ron Wood 05-03-2015 08:20 AM

While Odin stocks are quite pricey the fake anchor and swastika stamps knock down the value...a pity

lugerholsterrepair 05-03-2015 11:59 AM

Odin is about the best out there..for fit, finish and wood. I seriously doubt this one is an Odin.

jcoe 05-03-2015 08:40 PM

So how to identify Odin LP08 and Hi power stock, which I think they also made?
John

Ron Wood 05-03-2015 09:07 PM

Unless you can find one in the original box about the only way to tell is by quality. The Odin stocks are as good as the originals. As Jerry said, fit, finish and wood are spot on.

lugerholsterrepair 05-03-2015 10:11 PM

John, I don't know if they made a high power? I don't know much about it..I believe they are Spanish made. Mauser ordered them for the Artillery and Navy Lugers they replicated. I think not all that many either. I don't know if any HP stocks were made by Odin. I have never seen one in a blue box.
There ARE a couple of tells without the blue box. The wood is one. If you have seen a number of these Odin stocks the wood is very recognizable. It's difficult to describe..but once you see it..it's easy to spot. That's it! It has very fine spots, tight grained but lots of little spots running lengthwise.
The Navy disc is always steel. NEVER brass. It will not be marked, neither will the iron. The iron has a strawed locking lever and the Navy disc has a blued screw. The strap slots will be just as the originals, NOT chamfered. Odin stocks are found with a fairly glossy finish. More so than you would see on an original particularly on the edges. The wood is tight, not porous. They are a fine quality product..but like any stock, not guaranteed to fit all lugs. They have a better chance than most though. The irons are a pleasing quality.

George Anderson 05-04-2015 08:08 AM

The Odin stocks are made of maple.

Sieger 05-04-2015 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson (Post 270918)
The Odin stocks are made of maple.

Hi,

Mine looks more like Spanish Oak.

Sieger

George Anderson 05-05-2015 11:25 AM

Oak has qualities not suitable for stocks, either board stocks or rifle stocks. The only German rifle stocks ever made with oak were the late WWII mauser stocks and they were laminated to compensate for the brittle nature of oak,

Sieger 05-05-2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson (Post 271002)
Oak has qualities not suitable for stocks, either board stocks or rifle stocks. The only German rifle stocks ever made with oak were the late WWII mauser stocks and they were laminated to compensate for the brittle nature of oak,

George,

Whatever these Odin stocks are made of, the wood is not beautiful, and certainly does not match the very fine wood used to produce a typical set of Luger grips.

I purchased two of them from Slatters' Collectors Armory, in Alexandria Va., in the early 1980s, and still have the original certificates as issued by Slatters'. I remember telling the owner, at that time, that "Mauser never made these things".

I agree that the irons used on these stocks are of excellent quality, though the bluing is of cheap salt blue type, and mine have turned a brown-blue color.

Sieger

PS: Quite a lot of very nice furniture was made, in the 1920s, of Quartered Oak, so I really can't believe this material isn't strong enough for practical use.

John Sabato 05-05-2015 05:34 PM

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PS: Quite a lot of very nice furniture was made, in the 1920s, of Quartered Oak, so I really can't believe this material isn't strong enough for practical use.

Sieger, it is not that the material isn't strong enough, for floors and furniture it wears like iron and sands smooth and finishes beautifully, but for gunstocks that might be used in combat conditions, especially bayonet hand to hand type combat, Oak is a hard but brittle wood, and can shatter if stressed the wrong way at the wrong place.

"Softer" and more flexible hardwoods like walnut, beech, ash, and maple bend more than they break... that is why they were primary used for gunstocks, especially rifle stocks.

...and when you see antique or even modern bent wood furniture, you can bet that the "bent" parts like chair backs, are usually made of Ash, while the other "curved" parts are actually sawn in that shape, or laminated (for strength or to hold a shape) will be made of Oak.

jcoe 05-05-2015 05:46 PM

Thanks Jerry, finally found reference I remembered re Odin FN 1935 stocks, on page 100 of Vanderlinden”s book( holsters shoulder stocks of world). He shows high power stock, made by Odin using postwar FN parts, sold with Odin numbered certificate.
B Regds, John

John Sabato 05-06-2015 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick W. (Post 271028)
As I recall, oak seems to be kind of hard on HSS tooling.

Amen to that Rick... I can remember years ago wearing out a couple of HSS router bits putting a decorative edging on some Oak tables I was refinishing... :surr: I finally had to go spend some big $$$ on Carbide edged bits to finish the job.

Edward Tinker 05-06-2015 10:29 AM

Added photos for this thread that has nothing to do with the original posters questions :)

lugerholsterrepair 05-06-2015 10:31 AM

John. Thanks! I even have one of these..I have been meaning to make a holster and attach it to the stock with brass rivets I made..Thanks for the reference..I can take a look. They must not have made many of these. You rarely see them.

Ed, Thanks! I replied to this gentleman by email some days ago. I think this stock is more than likely made as a toy. It may have more value to toy collector's than anyone else? May not fit on a German Luger pistol. The attachment looks weird.

alanint 05-06-2015 10:57 AM

The attaching iron looks stamped, rather than milled. This an the cartoonish stamps would put it in the lower end value for me, if at all.
I agree that this looks like a replica accessory.


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