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zemian 02-15-2015 09:43 AM

New Luger, not so new member
 
Well, I've been lurking around here for some years now, gathering info and pictures, while trying to locate a good pistol in the used market that could be shot at the range without too much problems.
And at the end of december at last I managed to purchase my first Luger, a handgun I have always put on the top of my list.

So it is time to come out of the dark and show you my prize ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...pseff9ce34.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ps727d79b8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ps7f0e1b11.jpg

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It is a genuine Mauser, but it is one of several others that has been acquired by Frankonia on the surplus market in the late '90s, then refinished and distributed in Europe by Mauser itself.
I think that was done to celebrate the 90th anniversary of the adoption by the german Heer, but since Mauser had ceased production some years earlier they had to resort to used specimens. I even know of at least a DWM Luger being so refurbished by them...

It is marked with the modern civilian proof marks eagle-N under the barrel and under the side plate, but for the life of me I cannot understand how they made the original proof markings on the right barrel receiver to disappear!!!

My pistol had been rebarreled in 9x21 IMI just for the italian market (9 Parabellum being prohibited to civilians :rolleyes:).

I've immediately changed the crappy aftermarket grips with a pair of excellent Nills, and painted in white the Gesichert letters on the frame.

I've also purchased a couple of new Mec-Gar magazines, the latest kind with plastic follower, that I am currently converting to accept aluminum bases. They are somewhat easier to disassemble than the previous model (if you manage to drift out the base pins using as little force as possible), but watch out for straightness of the main body: mines were a little warped out of the box.
However I was able to correct any problem and now the followers run up-down very smoothly.
:bigbye:

alvin 02-15-2015 10:32 AM

Done by Mauser? Mauser's restoration capability could not compare with American professionals :) Understandably, that's not Mauser's main business anyway.

zemian 02-15-2015 10:40 AM

Hello Alvin,

I have not made it clear, my fault: it was only distributed by Mauser, but Frankonia did (or outsourced) all the refinishing work.

mrerick 02-15-2015 11:45 AM

Alberto,

Congratulations! What a beautiful Luger. The metallurgy and precision fit of these Mauser Lugers is outstanding, probably my preference over all except the Swiss.

Does this one have the Mauser factory engraving on the grip strap?

Marc

zemian 02-15-2015 12:14 PM

Hello Marc,

strangely it has not the Mauser Werke script on the front strap, as is usually found on these revamped pistols.
It is unusual, as it so lacks any clear info about the manufacturer, but of course we aficionados know the meaning of the S/42 code... ;)

tomaustin 02-15-2015 12:57 PM

so you are a "luger stalker" ??

rhuff 02-15-2015 04:37 PM

You have purchased a very nice looking Luger with an interesting history. This is a new one to me, but the P08 has so many stories to tell. I like the Nill grips that you installed.....they look very much at home on this Luger. Do you plan to shoot it?

zemian 02-15-2015 05:44 PM

I plan to take it to the range as soon as the weather here turns a little warmer, maybe in a month or two. Cant' wait :jumper:

Edward Tinker 02-15-2015 06:32 PM

These are fairly rare and discussed in Vlim and Mauro's book.

This refinished bright blue is what I have seen in the books and to be expected.

A great find, congrats!

Geo99 02-17-2015 03:14 AM

That's the prettiest shooter Luger I've ever seen!

alvin 02-17-2015 08:41 AM

Curious, how much is this one in Italy gun market?

sheepherder 02-17-2015 10:19 AM

Alberto, I agree with the others about the beauty of the workmanship/finish, but I am curious...

You state "rebarreled to 9x21 IMI"...The finish on the barrel looks the same as the rest of the pistol...Are you sure it was not re-chambered to 9x21 IMI???

When the caliber is changed, is the barrel/chamber marked/stamped with the 'new' caliber???

DavidJayUden 02-17-2015 11:05 AM

Wouldn't a 9x21 conversion be done with a simple reamer to lengthen the chamber?
dju

sheepherder 02-17-2015 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 267534)
Wouldn't a 9x21 conversion be done with a simple reamer to lengthen the chamber?
dju

That's how I would do it. Perhaps 'Berto was speaking metaphorically. :)

Or it could be another stupid politicians vote-grab legislation like we have in New York, California, Canada, and Wash DC!!! :grr:

The 9x21 retains the same OAL as the 9x19 so a new barrel is really unwarranted.

Curss 02-17-2015 01:19 PM

WOW, that's a beautiful finish! Very pretty looking gun!

zemian 02-18-2015 06:21 AM

Hello again,
sorry for the delay.

To answer Alvin: I payed it 1300 Euros (almost 1500 US$). It is a somewhat high-ish price for a pre-owned gun, but it is in pretty good shape.
When these guns were distributed by Bignami (italian importer of Mauser) in the late '90s they were sold for 1340 Euros in gunshops...

To answer sheeperder: I am fairly sure that the barrel is of modern manufacture. It lacks any old time proof mark and also the witness mark to align it to the frame. It is only proofed with an eagle-N on the underside and marked with the caliber on the upperside. Front sight base also lacks a witness mark.

More importantly, I have taken a sulfur mold of the chamber-throat-bore, and it shows the classic dimensions of a modern, "tight" 9mm bore: groove diameter is .3553 and bore diameter is .3463. Original barrels should have somewhat larger dimensions, from what I understand from the original specs.

The gun has been totally refinished in a high luster blue, hence the barrel perfectly matches the rest.
Maybe the old barrel was pitted or rusted... as a matter of fact some little pit signs are visible in the rear frame ears area.


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