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rodauto 02-07-2015 04:55 PM

Take down tool prices?
 
Was on ebay a while ago, take down tools all selling in the hundreds of dollars (each) whatttt???? New to Lugers just trying to understand the logic.
Rodney

DavidJayUden 02-07-2015 05:23 PM

While I can't rationalize E-bay logic, I'd suggest a WTB ad in the appropriate column below. Costs nothing.
dju

mrerick 02-07-2015 05:30 PM

Be very careful dealing in these on Ebay.

There are a number of people faking them and selling them there...

A very rare genuine one can be expensive. For example, there is high demand for E/2 marked Krieghoff tools. But.... fake ones are not worth a fraction of what a real one is.

Marc

Ben M. 02-07-2015 05:32 PM

gun shows a nice place for hunting them too.

dwm unmarked took at shows about 75$

rodauto 02-07-2015 05:41 PM

Thanks guys, I thought there must be a rational explanation out there !
Rodney

George Anderson 02-07-2015 05:50 PM

Like anything else, the price is determined by rarity, originality and demand.

lugerholsterrepair 02-07-2015 07:48 PM

the price is determined by rarity, originality and demand, highlighted by people with more money than knowledge. Tools are something you need to study if you plan to buy very many. They are more complex than most people think. Like holsters..look at the item..shape and how it's made, size, color. THEN look at the markings. The two have to relate to one another or something ain't right. It has taken me years of study, some mentoring and handeling many tools to even begin to understand the subject. Not sure I understand it yet but I remain a student.

alvin 02-08-2015 07:18 AM

It's not easy to fake a gun from beginning to end due to the complication involved. But it's not hard to fake a take down tool. If paying serious money on it, better study it carefully.

alvin 02-08-2015 07:36 AM

But be honest, it's not easy to tell. In my hand, I have a copy of Blue Book of Gun Values (BB, 1992 Edition). Before the listing of those boring referencing gun price data, the author talked about practical gun collecting. Most collector book does not talk about this, but BB did. The author said:

"In this business, the experience gained in running guns through your hands has no substitue. I have known people who would quote from memory every gauge, choke, barrel, stock variation available for a Model 12 Winchester, yet these same people can't spot a reblued gun."

He said "in this business", in collectors' context, read it as "in this hobby". What he said was: experience is hard to gain via just reading books (beware not reading books is even worse, that's implied). So, even buy a few bad ones at cost of losing capital is not necessarily horrible, buyer gains experience in this process. Same for the tools.

Lugerdoc 02-08-2015 11:20 AM

Rodney et al, I have both original unmarked DWM tools @$60 and new repro E/63 marked Sarco tools @$20 + $5 S&H for either. I do also have some original Mauser E/63 or 655 marked ones in the $75 to $100 range. TH

rodauto 02-08-2015 12:04 PM

Thanks Tom,
Will give you a call once the bank account recovers from the Luger purchase .
With the difference in the Canadian dollar right now I'm likely looking at close to $100 Canadian for the DWM tool.
Rodney


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