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Rugger 01-14-2015 01:44 PM

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I have just received this 4th Navy variant. All correct, but with non-matching extractor, trigger, grips and magazine. Fully functional. Extractor and trigger appear to be late 30's replacements. I am unsure as to whether grips were at some point correct repalacements, or local fabrications. I wonder if the firing pin is correct/original or not. Paid US$1,800.00. I would appreciate your advice as to where to find correct, imperial era grips for replacement and possibly an original Navy magazine ( I hpoe I am not dreaming). I will be posting additional pictures in separate postings. Your views and comments would be greatly appreciated!

Best.

Rugger

Rugger 01-14-2015 01:51 PM

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Rugger 01-14-2015 01:55 PM

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Rugger 01-14-2015 01:58 PM

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Rugger 01-14-2015 02:01 PM

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Rugger 01-14-2015 02:04 PM

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Rugger 01-14-2015 02:16 PM

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Rugger 01-14-2015 02:20 PM

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Rugger 01-14-2015 02:22 PM

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Norme 01-14-2015 02:45 PM

Hi Miguel, Thanks for posting the pictures of your new 1917 Navy. Unfortunately the photos are not well lit and it's hard to accurately assess condition, but I think the gun was reblued, probably a long time ago. $1,800.00 is a fair price for this gun, Navy magazines sell for $300.00 to $500.00 here in the US.
Regards, Norm

Norme 01-14-2015 02:53 PM

P.S. I can't make out much detail in the firing pin photo, a correct one would be un-numbered, un-fluted and un-blued. The grips are most likely local replacements.
Norm

mrerick 01-14-2015 05:38 PM

Miguel,

Congratulations on your Navy Luger.

If the toggle axle retaining pin is missing, it would be a good idea to get a replacement.

It would be quite something to trace this back to one of the German ships that visited Central and South America during the wars!

Marc

alanint 01-14-2015 05:55 PM

A little rough, but a nice find!

Sergio Natali 01-15-2015 06:13 AM

I'm not an expert on Navy Lugers, from the pictures to me it looks reblued, in any case it's quite a nice gun, unfortunately there are no longer that many around of them.

Sergio

Rugger 01-15-2015 07:53 AM

Thanks to all for your replies. Pistol in not reblued, finish is almost all gone. Hold open does not work with this magazine, which appears to be practically new and unused. Firing pin in unfluted and unmarked, but tip appears to me to be too long; I will be comparing with my other Imperial era pistols. I always wonder what these type of pistols would say if they could talk; what is their history? How did they came to be in my backyard?

Best,

Rugger

alanint 01-15-2015 08:42 AM

A really nice set of reproduction grips would do wonders for this pistol's overall look.

sheepherder 01-15-2015 09:22 AM

I don't recall a Navy having the date stamped on the side rail (as well as on the chamber); is this a known oddity??? :confused:

Maybe this Navy came from the Graf Spee? :)

In my area, $1800 USD would not be out of line for this Navy. ;)

tenbears 01-15-2015 03:00 PM

(I don't recall a Navy having the date stamped on the side rail (as well as on the chamber); is this a known oddity???)
The answer is yes.

Lugerdoc 01-15-2015 03:49 PM

The date markings on this pistol are correct for a 1917. I do have the mid toggle axel retaining pins and unnumbered DWM FP in stock. I also may have a nice set of unnumbered DWM grips available, but will have to check my warehouse. Tom

Rugger 01-15-2015 04:18 PM

PM sent to Mr. Heller.


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