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Hugh 04-04-2002 04:05 PM

Is this a real
 
Deaths Head badge, or a piece of junk? It is supposed to be German according to the purveyor. Size is 1 1/8" high by 1 1/4" wide.




http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/dh3.jpg

Herb 04-04-2002 04:45 PM

Re: Is this a real
 
Hugh, looks like a reproduction to me. The prongs are too long, they only need to be long enough to penetrate the cap, about 1/2" long, and they are usually made of stiff steel. Looks like aluminum, should be silver, and without seeing the teeth, it is hard to tell. The teeth should be very distinct, in two even rows, if not it is a repro and worth about $25.00 or so. A real on e goes for around $100.




Leo 04-04-2002 04:52 PM

Re: Is this a real
 
Hi Hugh........1934 pattern Totenkopf were silver plated die struck out of tombak and silver plated with a hallmark RZM M1/52 this is the code for Deschler & Sohn, Munchen. From 1936 the Totenkoph was struck in aluminum then zinc alloyed and the new code numbers were replaced with SS/RZM contract numbers, this info was taken from Detecting the fakes by Robin Lumsden.hope this helps Leo




Marvin 04-04-2002 05:37 PM

Re: Is this a real
 
Hugh,


My humble opinion is that it is a fake!


Marvin




Hugh 04-04-2002 08:26 PM

Re: Is this a real
 
I figured it was fake, has no hallmark on back, but what the heck only cost me $11.




Jesse 04-04-2002 08:36 PM

Re: Is this a real
 
Not all of them are hallmarked, I have found that DH early and late that came from the collar tabs have no hallmarks. I have an early SS/Panzer DE that I know to be real and it is not hallmarked.




Joe 04-04-2002 08:44 PM

Re: Is this a real
 
For $11.00 you can't go wrong buying that DH. Even if just to have one.

I have a repo DH that is very similar to the one displayed in your photo. At least you didn't pay $100 for a "real" one.

Joe





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