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SailingZs 09-25-2014 11:40 PM

Fiocchi 30 Luger 50% cycle failure?
 
Thank you for such a great forum!! I have been a Colt 1903 and 1908 collector for many years but now I am venturing into the world of Lugers. The engineering is fascinating!

I was recently considering a 1920 Commercial alphabet in 30 Luger. The seller said that Western ammo always worked great but the Fiocchi was problematic and I would be spending a lot of time clearing rounds. Is this typical or does the gun need time at a gunsmith?

Question number two-Do you reloaders out there put a few more grains of powder in your ammo?

Question number three-since I am not a reloader, should I just keep my sights on a 9mm?

Three questions are enough for one day. I look forward to spending many more hours here!
Very best regards,

-Bill

Edward Tinker 09-25-2014 11:54 PM

Bill, welcome. Haven't reloaded in years.

Haven't heard of large amounts of failures...

No on extra power IMHO.

9mm is cheaper, and lots of them out there....

DavidJayUden 09-26-2014 12:37 AM

Ed is right, NO extra powder. If you take up reloading, buy a good manual and follow it religiously. Do not be tempted to add a few grains for good measure. Not in any gun.
Generally we don't hear too many problems from the 30 cal. crowd, but I believe there is one posting now that is having issues. Read and learn.
dju

LU1900 09-26-2014 03:01 AM

Many cycle failure and jamming are due from the magazine from half time .
Some problems too with the old fiocchi amo : they age very poorly like french one's , not german kalitat

TheRomanhistorian 09-26-2014 03:32 AM

My .30 Luger 20s Commercial does okay with both JSP and FMJ Fiocchi ammunition. When I had problems I found it was the magazine (I have a few after market and original ones to swap in and out). That magazine, oddly enough, had fewer problems in another pistol. Strange but c'est la vie.

rhuff 09-26-2014 05:28 PM

Some folks(like me) have Alphabet Lugers that don't like the Fiocchi JSP ammo, but play well with the Fiocchi FMJ rounds. The Winchester/Western ammo is out there, but at least 2X as expensive as the Fiocchi.

I am a handloader for the 30Luger round, and have not needed to add "extra grains" of powder. I load my rounds to where they will cycle the toggle train reliably, and stop there. These parts are nearly 100 years old, and I see no need to stress them unnecessarily.

I enjoy shooting the 30 Luger round, and it is available when ammo amounts are normal(non-panic). It is a bit more expensive that the old standby 9mm.

SailingZs 09-27-2014 04:39 PM

Thank you all for your replies!!! I have looked at how to do a Thank you so it counts on the forum but have not found the magic button, yet.... I am still learning

rhuff 09-27-2014 05:50 PM

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