Whose Web-Site Is This...?
 

Does anyone know whose web-site this is ?


Someone sure has a bunch of really nice lugers...





http://site27663.dellhost.com/Wehrma.../hobnails.html

Re: Whose Web-Site Is This...?
 

WOW-----that's.....well.....well.....that's..........

not fair!! Thor

This is an issue that
 

is hard to comprehend. I had a "discussion" with my wife on the Heinkle in Arizona, because it flies the swastika. She feels that it is wrong to display it because it gives legitimacy to the Nazi's. I feel it is part of history (although I'm a firm believer that glorifying is bad).


So, it is a hard and difficult issue for some collectors and I don't want to start anything, but lots of feelings run in something like this. I saw the movie, Capt Corelies (sp) Mandolin and it portrayed the Italians in a different light, was very interesting to watch, plus showed some bad Nazis and a good hearted one.


Much like life, you follow orders or be shot, you follow orders and be vilified later (if you lose), if you win, you are the good guys.


Not an easy subject.


ed

Re: This is an issue that
 

The name of the book is "The Forgotten Soldier", author is Leon Sajer, its about a 18 yr old drafted into the German Army and sent to the Russian Front in 42,he was fron the Alsace Lorraine region, father was French, mother German, couldn't speak German initially, ended up in the Deutschland Waffen SS unit, after the war he returned to France and had to treat the war experiences as a hidden epoch of his life. Perspective is a big word but you can't use it as a substitute for whitewash.


Roadkill

Re: This is an issue that
 

Lets not get this idea started again the last time it got really nasty.


This site is for enjoying Lugers and not for espousing ideology. The Luger is an inanimate object incapable of thinking so lets not get back into the pitfall of blaming it for what happened.

Re: This is an issue that
 

i agree it is a luger site. the book and the picture of the reenactors hit a nerve.


by the way, the german soldiers did have an option . that's part of the myth. the could refuse and all they got was some verbal abuse. orders from high up forbide any punishment .

I Just Liked the Pretty Luger Photos... (EOM)
 

Re: This is an issue that
 

Thanks Tracy=>!! EOM

History or Glorified Villainy???
 

An inanimate object such as a kubelwagen, pistol of fin of a luftwaffe airplane should in my opinion be left as is to tell a story the truth. Reenactors parading around like valiant young soldiers of the reich borders on glorification of those we defeated in the name of decency and humanity. Maybe next in the name of fun we can create clandestine klan gatherings and the subsequent lynchings, torture, brutality, and abject inhumanity akin to that omitted by our soldiers of the fatherland. Lets be honest.. I used to tell my wife that my guns had no more attraction to me than my bowling ball. I appreciate the power, history, and the primal feel of discharging projectiles over several hundred feet persecond as well as their aesthetic beauty. Owning a stoeger luger like me is having a replication of an implement albeit an iniquitous one. But dressing up in full garb and playing nazi soldier is repugnant to the core.

Re: History or Glorified Villainy???
 

Hope everybody leaves it there we are going to get nasty again. Seems like this type of thread shows up every couple of months. Guess we as a Forum are doomed to repeat ourselves just as History does. Takes all the fun out of reading the forum and trying to learn about the lugers. However, one of the great things about our country is that we do have Freedom of Speech.

In the interests of decorum, I hereby second Tracy's motion...
 

This thread is closed