Slow motion Luger firing cycle
 

Came across this animation gif file today. . . thought you would all enjoy watching it.

http://i.imgur.com/YlGSbbv.gif

John,

Cool! The toggle bounces as it comes back to battery!!!

Gunny John

That is a very nice video of what is happening.

Very cool. Echoing Gunny John, I never noticed, let alone even considered bolt bounce in a P.08. I wonder if it's endemic to all P.08 or just this one? (I.e., is this one badly worn? Is it even a real P.08 and not one of those model guns?)

The first pistols even had an antibounce-lock fitted. So it must have been of some concearn to Luger or Borchardt. When they found out the bounce is only minimal, they dropped the bounce lock alltogether.

Vlim,

How did they even know it was bouncing? Wow!

Guns

John thanks it's very nice, the gun flips a lot also because it's held only with one hand.

Sergio

From what I understand the bounce was not so minimal in the 1900 model with the flat mainspring. The new coil mainspring made the anti bouce lock superfluous.

That's a great video!
Thanks for sharing.
Douglas.

I am sure one of the reasons the gun flips up is the fact that the toggle is exerting inertia both UP and Back, unlike a John Browning design, like the 1911 Colt where most of the recoil is straight back...

The answer to your questions are Yes, Yes, and this is definitely a REAL P.08...

Yes John, I agree wih you, apart from the fact that even with a 1911 if the left hand grip is not quite firm makes the gun flips up.

Sergio

perhaps the bounce is reason for the broken frame tab and/or the bottom hook part of the toggle lock on some 1900 ?

Perhaps. I would think it is as much to do with metal fatigue. Those two small parts are exercised with every shot taken. It may also be due to ignorance on the part of the individual handling the weapon. I briefly watched a person struggling to open the toggle of a 1900. He was convinced the toggle was jammed and was exerting quite a bit of effort to open the action. I stepped in and showed him that the receiver must be pulled slightly to the rear to disengage the toggle lock and then the action opens easily.