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cirelaw 08-02-2014 01:40 PM

Do Luger Parts Wear Out And Need Replaceing
 
In normal use? If so what parts are most vulnerable? How do replacement parts affect the guns value? I would assume Erfurt lugers are hardest to replace due to the multible proofs and on just about on every part. ~~Eric

alanint 08-02-2014 01:45 PM

The bullets have almost no life at all. I have to replace them virtually every time I go shooting! !
:eek:

cirelaw 08-02-2014 01:46 PM

What about the shell casings?

sheepherder 08-02-2014 02:23 PM

The takedown lever retaining spring wears out frequently...So much that it no longer holds the lever in...

Model 1900 mainsprings 'wear' [fatigue] from repeated flexing and one leaf will break...

Rifling wears out...Probably due to those lowlife boolits... :rolleyes:

cirelaw 08-02-2014 03:40 PM

Are parts interchangeable between DWM and Erfurt? For what its worth!! http://www.chuckhawks.com/dwm_luger.htm

ithacaartist 08-02-2014 09:19 PM

Yup, although just about every Erfurt part has its own proof mark. Somebody stuck an Erfurt takedown lever onto my DWM some time in the past. It fits fine, of course, and the #50 matches my s.n., but it is wrong because it has the Erfurt proof, right there next to the last 2 serial # digits.

WTB/WTT Need DWM takedown lever #50!

sheepherder 08-02-2014 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 258271)
Somebody stuck an Erfurt takedown lever...#50...onto my DWM...

I have Erfurt sideplate #06 on my Mauser... :rolleyes:

(Unless Erfurt stamped them upside down...Then it's #90...)

cirelaw 08-02-2014 10:07 PM

Are all parts from both maker interchangeable?

John Sabato 08-02-2014 10:43 PM

They CAN be Interchangeable but often require fitting by an armorer. Once all the parts on a newly manufactured Luger were fitted, and inspected they a were numbered alike to make sure all the correct parts were assembled after the bluing process. So if a numbered part had to be replaced the substituted replacement part would have to be fitted to work properly with the rest of the gun. Sometimes you get lucky and a replacement part would drop right into place and be functional. Other times you might have to try several parts that were a close fit and then polishing would complete the job of restoring functionality. It is why the Luger was so much more expensive to manufacture and maintain.

cirelaw 08-02-2014 10:48 PM

And worth every dollar!

Sergio Natali 08-03-2014 03:17 AM

John is absolutely correct, in fact the odd time I happened to replace a part it NEVER fitted!

Sergio

kurusu 10-28-2014 07:42 AM

This is already an old thread but...

Last weekend saw another hold open break in a friend's hands.

That makes about 4 of them I saw break in some 20 years. The other parts I saw break where: 1 Extractor; 2 Ejectors.

Lugerdoc 10-28-2014 08:28 AM

K, These are the 3 parts that experience the most movement (wear) and prone to breakage. TH

Zorba 10-28-2014 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurusu (Post 262175)
This is already an old thread but...

Last weekend saw another hold open brake in a friend's hands.

That makes about 4 of them I saw brake in some 20 years. The other parts I saw brake where: 1 Extractor; 2 Ejectors.

These parts all stopped? :D:roflmao:

kurusu 10-28-2014 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zormpas (Post 262188)
These parts all stopped? :D:roflmao:

:roflmao:

That's what you get when your'e typing with your feet.

But the parts definetly stopped. :D

Thanks for the head's up.

Dwight Gruber 10-28-2014 12:42 PM

See the second stickied discussion in this forum.

--Dwight

spacecoast 10-28-2014 03:46 PM

Any concerns about the mainsprings in 90+ year old guns? Do they need periodic replacement?

Karl 10-28-2014 06:22 PM

I used to always replace the mainspring in a new (to me) Luger because it is a cheap part and I reasoned that there was no harm in replacing the spring but potential harm in shooting with a weak spring. However, now that I reload and have more experience with lugers I have learned that the old springs, despite the age, are usually just fine. Coil springs seem to keep their vigor better than leaf springs. Can anyone here with real engineering knowledge support this opinion?
KFS

kurusu 10-29-2014 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Gruber (Post 262193)
See the second stickied discussion in this forum.

--Dwight

This is my own 20 year survey of about 20 to 30 Lugers used in target competition 70 rounds per event 2 to 3 events a year.

I forgot to mention 4 failures of the rear toggle link because the parts didn’t actually broke but developed cracks and would break if continued to be used.







Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 262207)
I used to always replace the mainspring in a new (to me) Luger because it is a cheap part and I reasoned that there was no harm in replacing the spring but potential harm in shooting with a weak spring. However, now that I reload and have more experience with lugers I have learned that the old springs, despite the age, are usually just fine. Coil springs seem to keep their vigor better than leaf springs. Can anyone here with real engineering knowledge support this opinion?
KFS

No engineering knowledge but, The luger mainspring is almost at no tension when at rest.

LugerVern 10-29-2014 09:26 AM

Just a small note: there is a really big difference between being functional and serviceable-- I have seen many many lugers that would fire but would no longer meet the anyone's concept of consistency or accuracy.

Just a Note :)

Vern


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