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cirelaw 07-31-2014 01:08 PM

Bob Simpson Says Consider A Swiss
 
http://www.guns.com/2011/05/17/colle...ss-connection/ Eric

Vlim 07-31-2014 01:27 PM

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Good advice, prices in Europe are pretty decent at the moment. The Swiss lugers have been free to own in Belgium for a number of years. This fact dramatically increased the prices of these pistols and Belgium served as the main distribution point to other EU-countries (not neccesarily legally....). After some gun related mishaps the Belgian law was revised and the Swiss lugers are now permit-only guns again, reducing the prices considerably.

I recently purchased 2 examples from a gun store at an interesting location, they are based on the old industrial zone that was once the Rottweiler Pulverfabriken in southern Germany, later part of the well known IG Farben. This industrial zone lay in ruins for many years and has been restored and turned into a business and leisure park in the last decades. The history of the complex makes it well worth a visit.

Sorry for the tatty photographs, I only had my phone with me and they are waiting there for import documents.

mrerick 07-31-2014 02:40 PM

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I'm particularly impressed with Swiss Lugers!

cirelaw 07-31-2014 02:56 PM

Thanks to George Anderson I will own mine next week! I feel like an expectant father~~

Ron Wood 07-31-2014 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mrerick (Post 258161)
I'm particularly impressed with Swiss Lugers!

Me too! :)

cirelaw 07-31-2014 03:15 PM

They are just so Sweeeeet ~~~~!

cirelaw 07-31-2014 05:32 PM

Has anyone heard of Fred Datig's Swiss book? http://www.amazon.com/Luger-Pistol-H.../dp/B0039OG2RY Eric~

Ron Wood 07-31-2014 08:05 PM

Yep, that one has been around a long time and is usually in a Luger collector's basic library. You may already have one...note that the illustration in the Amazon ad is not the actual book cover.

cirelaw 07-31-2014 08:43 PM

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No but I do have what I consider the finest! Vittorio M. Bobbo, PARABELLUM A Techinal History Of Swiss Lugers. It is printed both in Italian and English. Beautiful photography and over 200 pages!

Vlim 07-31-2014 09:02 PM

I still shake my head at this title 'A technical history'. Although the book has nice photos, it doesn't explain anything of value on the technical changes made to the Swiss Parabellum.

We included more background info in our book 'The Parabellum Is Back! 1945-2000' ... Including the altered opening curve of the 06/29 and the list of parts manufacturers and suppliers to the Waffenfabrik Bern.

cirelaw 07-31-2014 09:18 PM

Your Right! I will order a copy tomorrow! Tks

siegersallee 08-06-2014 10:36 AM

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Ron,

Where did you get those very stylish luger stands in your post:

Ron Wood 08-06-2014 10:37 AM

I made them.

kzullick 08-06-2014 02:38 PM

Very nice Ron.

cirelaw 08-06-2014 02:48 PM

Where all Swiss lugers made for 7.65 calibre. Was the 9mm round ever considered? Eric http://www.landofborchardt.com/ammo-swiss.html

Vlim 08-06-2014 03:39 PM

Yes, they did consider a 9mm version and they finally even managed to produce a good 9mm one, but not without a fight :)

cirelaw 08-06-2014 04:02 PM

Thank you! Did the 9mm ever go into production? My book in on its way!

Vlim 08-06-2014 04:43 PM

No, not officially. By the time they were done with the 06/29 in 9mm, they were already well away with the acceptance of a new 9mm pistol: the SIG P210.

cirelaw 08-06-2014 04:55 PM

Tks~Were they as accurate as a Swiss Watch?

guns3545 08-06-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 258468)
Where all Swiss lugers made for 7.65 calibre. Was the 9mm round ever considered? Eric http://www.landofborchardt.com/ammo-swiss.html

Eric,

They produced a few, certainly less than 100, almost against everyone's objections, in the 1924/8 era, around SN 24,000 to 27,000 but by the time 1929 came along the project was dead.

May be off on the SN range but 9mm variations have been seen. Not many, but they are around and expensive. The 9mm Luger was never a serious contender for their next generation sidearm. Too complicated, too costly and alternatives mainly driven by Browning's work on the Model 1911 abounded.

John


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