1918 erfurt rig
 

Hello Gentlemen,
Kind of out of my league here but came across this one rig the other day from the family. Just thought I would share. Matching including mag, and had another mismatched one in the holster. Anyone has the Luger for it , let me know. Thanks for looking:)

Welcome to this forum.
Somehow it looks as if I always recommend the same things to people who want to shoot their old Luges:
a) first have it properly checked by a competent armourer
b) never shoot heavy loads as modern cartridges are not that safe for these old ladies.


Safe shooting.

Sergio

Either standard 124 or 115 FMJ bullets should work. Winchester white box is recommended here, and Sellier & Belloit 115 fmj is my favorite.
A very nice Luger!
dju

Thank you both Gentlemen, I appreciate this expertise very much I know it's a run-of-the-mill Luger but I love the history behind it. Thanks again , this is a great forum.

A question for the ERFURT experts...

Does anyone know if any Lugers were produced by ERFURT, where the toggle mark DIDN'T have a break in the crown stamp? :confused: :eek:

I don't remember if I have ever seen an Erfurt toggle that didn't have the break in the right side of the top of the crown...

John, I have a 1912 P08 and two 1914 LP08s that do not have breaks in the crown.

John -

I have a 1913 Erfurt that has a perfect crown. Maybe it's just the later war ones that have broken die stamp?

John, Can you please show what break you are talking about, sorry for my ignorance.
Alf.

On the right lobe of the crown, closest to the toggle serial number there is a missing line. This comes from the die breaking at some point.

It would be interesting to take a survey of all available Erfurt Lugers out there to narrow down at what serial range the die broke.

Erfurt Crown (Broken Stamp)
 

Alf,

This photo, even though the stamp is filled with white, perfectly illustrates the broken Erfurt Crown toggle stamp.

This is most commonly observed on Erfurt Lugers. Some early Erfurt Lugers have recently been observed (by me) that must have been produced before this stamp broke. I have seen 1914 dated Erfurts with the broken crown stamp, so the break must have occured early in Erfurt production.

John,

I have one that looks identical to the picture, and am sure there are thousands more out there in 'luger-land".

The broken crown die occurred fairly early in production, but there are legitimate examples where the crown is intact. I am not sure but I believe that the die was replaced in later production so the crown was not broken.

I have an Erfurt Artillery, 7398, with no break in the crown.

1916 Erfurt serial #6338a. Crown is not totally broken but the right side has a very thin spot. Bill

Erfurt crown
 

The 1912 Erfurt that I am purchasing does not appear to have a break in the crown.

My Erfurt 1917 has a very clear crown.
Alf