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hayhugh 05-01-2014 01:54 PM

For real or no?
 
I see one in Kenyon's book "LUGERS AT RANDOM" on page 399 and one is now listed on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luger-Artill...item48655b8851

I have see where some people say there is no such animal. What is the consensus here??

Edward Tinker 05-01-2014 02:10 PM

from experts they have told me - not leather - canvas yes

I do not doubt them, but most things WW1 were made from leather, but these are people who know what they are talking about - so unless one comes in a 'collection' or falls in your lap, I would not pay big bucks for one, unless you really want one.

Ed

lugerholsterrepair 05-01-2014 02:12 PM

Pure fantasy item.

George Anderson 05-01-2014 02:37 PM

Consider the seller.

John Sabato 05-01-2014 02:42 PM

+1 on Ed, Jerry and George's comments....

Here is a link to our own Mauro Baudino's website on the LP-08. This link will take you to a page where you can see a photo of the canvas type TM-08 case that was used. I have never seen a period photograph of a leather snaildrum case. Surely if they were real, at least one photograph before/during/after WW1 showing the leather case in use would have surfaced by now. Hence, until proven otherwise, it's a FAKE.

lugerholsterrepair 05-01-2014 02:45 PM

John! until proven otherwise? You are being too lenient..

Ron Wood 05-01-2014 02:50 PM

Considering that drum magazines did not exist until 1916/1917 (patented in July of 1916), a 1915 dated carrier might seem a little suspect? :)

SIGP2101 05-01-2014 03:23 PM

Too crude for any type of European craftsmanship of that era.

John Sabato 05-01-2014 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SIGP2101 (Post 254087)
Too crude for any type of European craftsmanship of that era.

I'd say Pakistani origin, maybe around the year 2010... and then the aging process takes place by having their animals chew on them and then leave them out in the sun for a few months, eh?:rockon:

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 254086)
Considering that drum magazines did not exist until 1916/1917 (patented in July of 1916), a 1915 dated carrier might seem a little suspect? :)

+1... nice catch Ron.

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 254085)
John! until proven otherwise? You are being too lenient..

...just tryin' to be polite Jerry... :D

hayhugh 05-01-2014 05:45 PM

Other then the photo on page 399, are there any other obvious errors in LUGERS AT RANDOM?

Ron Wood 05-01-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hayhugh (Post 254098)
Other then the photo on page 399, are there any other obvious errors in LUGERS AT RANDOM?

Probably...a lot has been learned since the book was first published in 1969 (and, other than publishing it in a smaller format, has not been updated since). It still remains an excellent reference for the new collector as it provides a "catalog" of most major Luger variations. A little of the descriptive information is no longer valid, so newer references should be consulted when contemplating a high dollar or obscure purchase.

George Anderson 05-01-2014 06:45 PM

Mr. Wood, you certainly are a diplomat.

Dwight Gruber 05-02-2014 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson (Post 254083)
Consider the seller.

At least the picture is in focus

--Dwight

sheepherder 05-02-2014 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Anderson (Post 254083)
Consider the seller.

Ah, the Revshop, in Prior Lake! :)

I wonder if they're hiring... :thumbup:


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