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kmcd 01-27-2014 08:54 PM

No year stamped on Luger
 
I just found this forum and have been tyring to learn more about my Luger. I found the pinned thread about identifying, with pictures, very informative and have learned a lot about Lugers in general from that and many members' posts. However, I haven't found how to determine the year it was made if no year is stamped on it. The serial # is 6571 with a script letter that I believe is a "t". There is also no country of origin on it.

Thank you for your help!

mrerick 01-27-2014 09:05 PM

Hi, Kerry, and welcome to the forum.

Is your luger in 7.65mm (.30 Luger) or 9mm caliber?

Many commercial Lugers (particularly the DWM Alphabet Lugers) don't have a date on the chamber.

Was it made by DWM? That would appear in script letters on the forward toggle.

Photos help quite a bit with identification request...

Marc

Edward Tinker 01-27-2014 09:07 PM

welcome to the forum

pictures would be good :)

kmcd 01-27-2014 09:16 PM

Thanks! It is a DVM Luger. How can I tell what the caliber is? And, what is an Alphabet Luger?

kmcd 01-27-2014 09:19 PM

By the way, it was brought to the US from Germany during WWII by my granddad who was stationed there. My mom says there is a form or certificate that he had to have to bring it back..if I can find that it might help. (We have boxes of his things around so that might take awhile!)

mrerick 01-27-2014 09:42 PM

If a No. 2 pencil will easily fit down the muzzle into the barrel, it's probably 9mm.

Marc

kmcd 01-27-2014 09:45 PM

Yes the pencil fit right in!

mrerick 01-28-2014 08:51 AM

This may be an early Luger, a commercial or something for the police. At this point, pictures are needed...

Marc

kmcd 01-30-2014 04:47 PM

I had to order a charger for my camera so I can get some pics uploaded :) In the meantime, what is an "Alphabet" Luger?

mrerick 01-30-2014 07:24 PM

During the Weimar era, DWM manufactured commercial Lugers, many of which were exported from Germany; and many of which ended up in the USA.

These didn't have a date over the chamber, were numbered in a commercial style, and all had a serial number formed by numeric digits and a single letter alphabet suffix letter. These are often referred to as DWM Alphabet commercial Lugers.

They were mainly made in the 1920s. IIRC your "t" suffix letter is generally thought to be beyond the last of those in this variation's series. By 1929, they made it into the "s" suffix, and by 1930 the line was being moved from Berlin to Mauser in Oberndorf.

Marc

kmcd 01-30-2014 07:34 PM

Thanks, mrerick!

Are there instructions on the forum (or elsewhere) on taking apart and reassembling a Luger? Is it advised to do so? Is it helpful to have photos of the individual components for identification and evaluation?

Sergio Natali 01-31-2014 09:49 AM

First of all welcome to this Forum of Luger aficionados.
As others have already told you pictures are essential for any judgment.
Would be advisable to learn more about this great gun, and apart several books on this topic, I'm certain that this forum will help you a lot.

ithacaartist 01-31-2014 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmcd (Post 248959)
Thanks, mrerick!

Are there instructions on the forum (or elsewhere) on taking apart and reassembling a Luger? Is it advised to do so? Is it helpful to have photos of the individual components for identification and evaluation?

Yes, check for YouTube links in the technical section, IIRC, or do a search on YouTube itself. Thorough demonstrations of field stripping and complete dis-assembly and re-aseembly are available.

Yes. It's always nice to see a shot of at least the 2-digit serial number on each component usually so marked.


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