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Maestro 12-29-2013 11:22 PM

Snail Drum Canvas Carrier or Drum Pouch
 
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Does anyone have any idea regarding availability & estimated price for one of these canvas drum pouches as pictured in this example VS. the leather pouches (also availability, price)? ;)

http://www.pickelhaubes.com/bb/viewt...&view=previous

Apparently, there are no documented evidence that the leather drum pouches were ever issued for use by the Imperial German Armed forces. Reproductions have been available since the 1980's (e.g. Gustav Reinhardt, Berlin, 1915 and 1916 dates). Original Leather drum pouches were apparently available for sale in the 1920's as after market commercial items (e.g. 1924 Pacific Arms Catalog ads).

The only documented original military carrying pouch is the canvas drum pouch or carrier, which is suspended by a loop on the belt. One canvas carrying pouch was issued with each drum magazine. The drum with the dust cover was stored in this bag.

Lastly, I guess, perhaps a cheaper option maybe a Canvas Bread Bag Pouch as a suitable alternative for the carrying the TM-08 and accessories. The MP-18 Instruction manual mentions the use of the bread bag (Brotbeutal)

Maestro 12-29-2013 11:59 PM

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I'm not sure, but i believe this maybe an original leather pouch

Maestro 12-30-2013 12:37 AM

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Imperial German Bread Bag for about $135-150.

LU1900 12-30-2013 03:25 AM

I think all leather pouch are fantasy , and the trommels where make in 1917/18 so why pouch in 1915 ...
For canvas , some pics in action show them , pics from Klaus and George ; thank to them !
I own three canvas , it seems there different manufacture about them , but same form .
Currently more of the counterfeits are easily identifiable

Norme 12-30-2013 08:44 AM

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Hi Darius, It's generally agreed that all leather trommel pouches are fake, the only genuine pouches are the canvas ones as illustrated in the manual. Original canvas pouches are very rare and sell for close to $1,000.00 in decent condition.
Regards, Norm

lugerholsterrepair 12-30-2013 10:46 AM

Norme is right IMO. Fairly decent repro canvas pouches are available from IMF I think?

George Anderson 12-30-2013 11:55 AM

As I recall, I paid about $1000 each for my pouches. Great War Militaria in Chambersburg, PA made and sold excellent copies of the canvas pouch in the past. They may still have some.

Maestro 12-30-2013 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Norme (Post 247186)
Hi Darius, It's generally agreed that all leather trommel pouches are fake, the only genuine pouches are the canvas ones as illustrated in the manual. Original canvas pouches are very rare and sell for close to $1,000.00 in decent condition.
Regards, Norm

very cool picture of the manual, i was missing.. thanks Norm. :cheers:

alanint 12-31-2013 06:48 AM

Very interesting troops photo as well. The soldier on the left appears to be issuing brand new bayonet frogs to the others.

cneider 01-06-2014 09:45 PM

This is some good information. I was ALMOST going to by a reproduction leather snail drum carrier from IMA to go with the reproduction snail drum I bought from Numrich. As it turned out, the Numrich snail drum jammed in both my Artillery Model Luger and my 1920's commercial Luger.

ithacaartist 01-09-2014 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cneider (Post 247610)
This is some good information. I was ALMOST going to by a reproduction leather snail drum carrier from IMA to go with the reproduction snail drum I bought from Numrich. As it turned out, the Numrich snail drum jammed in both my Artillery Model Luger and my 1920's commercial Luger.

Their quality control is apparently sketchy, but I believe others who had malfunctioning ones swapped them back to Numrich for ones that worked.


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