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Tony Min 11-17-2013 02:11 PM

New to collection a 1911
 
My collection so far has a wide focus. Among them is a BYF 42 P38, my last buy was my 1916 DWM P08 and now I finally have a nice 1911. I won't get it in my possession for a couple of weeks yet but here are the two pics from the seller that made me decide to jump on it.
Next will be a WW2 PP.
It is a 1944 all original finish Remington Rand 1911 A1 US Army.
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Maestro 11-17-2013 07:11 PM

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I know what you mean Tony; these are iconic guns!!:cheers:
here's its younger brother!!

Sergio Natali 11-18-2013 08:04 AM

In the past I used to collect 1911, I had two Remington Rand and two Colt 1911 a1; beautiful and fascinating guns, congratulations-

tudorbug 11-18-2013 11:48 AM

I would not mind owning a Colt 1911A1.

David

kurusu 11-18-2013 11:51 AM

My 1911A1 is a battered mismatch Augusta Arsenal rebuild, yours is much much better.

Tony Min 11-18-2013 02:01 PM

$1500. Figured a good deal for what appears to be a 98% gun

rhuff 11-18-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Maestro (Post 244358)
I know what you mean Tony; these are iconic guns!!:cheers:
here's its younger brother!!



I would consider your 1911 as an older brother to the 1911A1.

Zorba 11-18-2013 05:11 PM

Yea, I'm jonesing for a RemRand for my collection too!

kurusu 11-19-2013 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by zormpas (Post 244420)
Yea, I'm jonesing for a RemRand for my collection too!

I got half your wish. My rebuild is half REM half Ithaca. :D

Tony Min 11-24-2013 12:27 PM

I passed up a 1918 matching Colt for similar money but not as good a shape. The early Colts had no slide hardening at all. As I do shoot my guns.

Maestro 11-24-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rhuff (Post 244418)
I would consider your 1911 as an older brother to the 1911A1.

yes.. correct.. meant to say "older" :cheers:

this one is also an "older" brother, 1943!!

Maestro 11-24-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Min (Post 244394)
$1500. Figured a good deal for what appears to be a 98% gun

Fantastic deal :bowdown:

Tony Min 11-28-2013 02:01 PM

These pics were taken at my FFL the other day. I have 8 more days. The gun looks better than expected and it doesn't really have the telltale signs of refinish. I also couldn't find arsenal rebuild marks. How the heck did it stay so perfect?

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Sergio Natali 11-29-2013 04:03 AM

Well probably your 1911 has rested properly greased in a safe for a very long time, in fact from the photos are not really visible holster wear or other big scratches.
Remington Rand was the biggest producer of 1911A1 and basically made three series of 1911, first in 1942-43 s/n 916405/955000 second one in 1943 s/n 955000 / 980000 and the last one in 1943-45 s/n 980000 / 2465139
In 1944 Remington Rand made s/n from 1743847 to 1816641

1911 pistols are still in my heart since I used to collect them until a few years ago.

Congratulations again.

Sergio

rhuff 11-29-2013 05:00 PM

I can't really tell by the photos, but if that 1911A1 has not been refinished, then you should see a definite color difference in the slide where the distal 1/3 or so was heat treated. Once they are refinished, the color difference is not so distinct, especially if re-parkerized.

Tony Min 12-09-2013 06:57 PM

Had a fantastic time shooting the 1911 Saturday. Shoots just as good as my BIL's Kimber. Only his sights are better.
I got another winner...

MikeP 12-11-2013 04:48 AM

Nothing wrong with broad interest in collecting.
Accumulating is a good description.
Just when you think you have enough, something else pops up.
Most military pieces are interesting for whatever grabs your attention.
I have a 1911A1 I brought home from VN that has the colorization on the slide just mentioned.
It is a Colt slide on a RR frame.

Curly1 12-11-2013 08:12 PM

A lot of them did not have rebuild markins on them, mine doesn"t.

The original finish on the barrels were blued and marked HS for High Standard Marked.

Mine was parked.

Tony Min 12-13-2013 11:29 AM

My barrel is a Flannery. These were made in 44 and mostly used as replacement barrels but I have read an unknown number were used as original equipment in Remington Rand's. My pistol also being a 1944 it might be one of those. The barrel is blued.

guns3545 12-13-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Min (Post 246064)
My barrel is a Flannery. These were made in 44 and mostly used as replacement barrels but I have read an unknown number were used as original equipment in Remington Rand's. My pistol also being a 1944 it might be one of those. The barrel is blued.

It's not that uncommon to see a Flannery barrel in a 1944 RR or Ithaca although High Standard is more common.

Of the 313,000 or so barrels Flannery made from late 1943 to 1945, over 227,000 were delivered in 1944 and High Standard was working at full capacity.

BTW, nice gun. Congratulations.

John


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