Swiss .93 grain bullets
 

I have recently been thinking about purchasing some original Swiss .93 grain ball .30 Luger bullets, and I was wondering has anyone had any experience with these units?? I see they have a cannelure groove pretty low on the bullet, otherwise they look the same as our US offerings... What's the reason for the groove, you couldn't possibly crimp the case mouth in it, your OAL would be extreme??....any thoughts or experience out there?... best to all, til...lat'r...GT:cheers:

G.T.

I have never seen the bullets that you are speaking of. Are they .308, or .309in. in dia.? Are they FMJ or JSP(like many I have seen in USA)?

The cannalure on the 93gr Fiocchi JSP bullet in their 30 luger ammo is set quite low on the bullet. The OAL on 30 Luger is pretty long. The 30 Mauser bullet has a cannalure that is too low to use for 30 Luger, and I add a cannalure above it so that I can load it into 30 luger brass.

Do you perhaps have a picture or a link to these bullets? I am always trying to find better 30 Luger bullets than I have available currently.

GT,

OAL for the 7.65 Parabellum is 1.173 inches.

I bet you the Swiss offerings match this OAL perfectly when loaded to the cannelure groove.

Sieger

Swiss bullets
 

Hi Sieger, Actually since my last post I found a picture of the Swiss round and see that the brass is actually spiked or crimped into the bullet groove about 1/2 way up the brass neck on both sides.. at least from the picture is appeared so?? there isn't a cannalure on the mid part of the bullet... I would imagine they didn't want a round to telescope using automatic weapons.. As it appears, it shouldn't have any effect on loading or shooting... I will probably put a, "correct for my purpose!"cannalure on them just the same.. I'm mostly after the 93 gr. ball aspect of the bullet... Best to all, til...lat'r....GT:cheers:

GT,

By the way, do the Swiss use the same .309 diameter the Germans did?

Sieger

bullet dia.
 

Hi Sieger, I don't know?? I'll certainly let you check some of them out, I have them on lay-a-way right now, another month or so before I get them...Best to you, til...lat'r....GT:cheers:

GT,

So the Swiss load that you saw is using the bullet cannalure for a place to indent/crimp the upper brass neck, not the case mouth, into? Most interesting to say the least. Some of the American ammo, especially the SD ammo, has a case cannalure to help keep the bullet from moving deeper into the case and raising the case pressure. Many of the SD rounds get chambered many times before they ever get shot.

Ummmmm.....WHERE ARE THEY AVAILABLE? I've been looking in vain for 93gr .30 Luger bullets forever!

Ebay
 

Hi Nukem556, there is a gentleman selling them on, "Gun Broker" in quantities of 500... not cheap, but look pretty good.. Just look under: .30 Luger .. and see what comes up... best to you, til...lat'r....GT:cheers:

Gun Broker
 

Sorry, my previous post titled Ebay, should have been titled GUN BROKER .. best to all, til...lat'r....GT:cheers:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=378683389


.30 Luger projectiles. 93 grain full metal jacket. Lead core. Cupronickel jacket. Have an cannelure. Made by Swiss Munition. Made for the Swiss Ministry of Defense. Precision Swiss quality produced in 2002. In bulk packs of 500 pieces. The actual bullets are pictured. Condition is new old stock. See pictures. $7.95 shipping. Credit cards add 3%. Ky. residents add sales tax. Sold as is. No returns. I combine multiple item shipments.

Very nice looking "projectiles"!

At $100 shipped that would be $20 a hundred or $$10 a box of 50. If you already have the brass..you could load a box of 50 with these bullets for around $15 or about half of what cartridges sell for retail?

GT- if you get some of these bullets, please tell us how they work for you. KW

will do...
 

It'll be awhile, but when they get here, i'll send a few to my loading buddies and a complete report will certainly follow! . best to all, til...lat'r....GT :cheers:

I recently purchased an Israeli surplussed HiPower (FN Herstal) from these people. They were great to deal with.

Marc

A 0.93 grain bullet is awful light. Lightest I've ever shot was a 90gn bullet.