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yofo 10-17-2013 02:05 PM

Erfurt #'s
 
Hello all.
I have a 1916 Erfurt with a mismatched side plate marked S 80.
The correct number would be 70 to match the serial #.
But, I have seen 1916's with and without numbered side plates.
Which would be correct?
And where to find one?

alanint 10-17-2013 03:48 PM

No Erfurt ever left the factory without a numbered and proofed sideplate. You will need to not only find a number 70, but an Erfurt proofed one at that.

Lugerdoc 10-18-2013 10:12 AM

yofo, I do have a vg+ orig finished unnumbered, crown/B marked Erfurt side plate available @$150 or $200 with orig trigger lever & pin. This would be easier for a restorer to number 70 for you, than one with an existing serial. Tom

cirelaw 10-18-2013 11:38 AM

Doug would not an unmarked one also be technically also uncorrect or were some left that way/ Did some have the last 2 digit on the bottom of the sideplate??

alanint 10-18-2013 12:21 PM

Eric,
No to my knowledge. Erfurt was a goverment arsenal that never made commercial pistols, so numbering other than according to goverment regulation is doubtful.

cirelaw 10-18-2013 12:51 PM

Are Erfurt and Dwm Parts Interchangeable?
 
If not proofed can each be used and would fit each?

DavidJayUden 10-18-2013 01:06 PM

I'd expect some fitting to be required.
dju

mystical_tutor 10-19-2013 10:52 AM

The problem I have seen with rematched sideplates is the exact alignment of the trigger axle. If the sideplate isn't fitted exactly or the axle anchor is worn the trigger can be sloppy and the pull inconsistant.

An Erfurt with no sideplate number is kinda like a $3.00 bill.

Gary

George Anderson 10-19-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mystical_tutor (Post 242465)

An Erfurt with no sideplate number is kinda like a $3.00 bill.

Gary

I have an Erfurt side plate never blued, no trigger bar and unnumbered with a nice crisp Erfurt acceptance stamp. They are rare but do exist and did leave the plant.

mystical_tutor 10-20-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Anderson (Post 242491)
I have an Erfurt side plate never blued, no trigger bar and unnumbered with a nice crisp Erfurt acceptance stamp. They are rare but do exist and did leave the plant.

It left the plant on a gun????? That is really unique. I know I have a lot of them yet to see but at least till now I have never seen a Erfurt without a sideplate number on it.

Or did it come out as a piece? Whole different ball game I think.

Gary

George Anderson 10-21-2013 12:56 PM

Gary, it's obvious that it didn't leave the factory on a finished pistol. I stated that it had never been blued and it has no trigger bar installed.

mystical_tutor 10-21-2013 02:33 PM

George;

I apologize for over reacting. My statement was hasty and without proper thought. What I should have said originally was that an Erfurt pistol with no sideplate number is kinda like a $3.00 bill.

In any case my response was crass and I am sorry.

Gary


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