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Ben Evans 10-09-2013 10:05 AM

1936 Matching Luger
 
Chaps, this is for sale on the WAF forum. I think it is a really nice set, two matching mags, same dated holster. Anyone any comments on it? Its not cheap though!


Cheers

Ben

Gebirg 10-09-2013 12:54 PM

Ben,
Seems ok to me, wery nice - go for it!

Ben Evans 10-09-2013 01:33 PM

Many thanks, I will barter the price for it and see if I can buy it :)

Cheers


Ben

kpf 10-09-2013 01:40 PM

That is a wery nice set, good luck!!:cheers:

Regards

Kai

Norway

pors12 10-09-2013 02:47 PM

Hi,

Is this gun still working ?

regard

Otto

Ben Evans 10-09-2013 02:51 PM

No Otto, its a deac, we are not allowed live pistols in the UK :(

pors12 10-09-2013 03:11 PM

Ok, but it had been a really nice gun.
The holster is a nice one.

I have a Böker from 1939 and one from 1940.

regards

ChannelIsles 10-09-2013 03:23 PM

1936 s/42
 
If I was in the UK - I'd be all over that Luger & Holster - Beautiful matched rig - You'd not be able to easily upgrade - I hope you get it. Brendan

rhuff 10-09-2013 04:59 PM

It looks to be excellent from the photos. It just makes me sad to know it is a deact......but that is how it has to be there. There were a number of DEWAT submachine guns in the USA many, many years ago, that when the amnesty came about, they got registered, and made functional again. Those guns are worth a "ton" now.

Douglas Jr. 10-10-2013 10:02 AM

Looks like a nice rig. If you're looking for a III Reich Luger, this is the one.

alanint 10-10-2013 10:08 AM

I know this is stirring the pot, but I'm not sure I would deactivate a live Luger if I found one just to be able to own it. I'd leave that one alone and find an already deactivated example.

Whether illegal or not, I'm not sure I could take an old vet's live bringback and have it ruined. The law might change some day.

gunbugs 10-10-2013 07:02 PM

I think you can see in one of the photos taken from the front, where there is a hole drilled up from the bottom through the receiver into the chamber. The hole shows as a notch in the bottom front edge of the receiver. Sad....

Sergio Natali 10-11-2013 04:22 PM

Just the words "deactivate a Luger" gives me the creeps, especially a nice one like that!

Douglas Jr. 10-14-2013 10:31 AM

Ben must to dance according to the music.
This is how that laws are on his country. Not everybody can do what Mr. Sturgess made years ago to save his collection, by moving to Switzerland.

I know the bad feeling of seeing a deact collectable gun, but it's not right to say to do something that is against the law. I doubt that anyone in US, in their full sanity, let's say, would risk to own a unregistered full auto MG42 or a Thompson SMG just because they do not agree to have a deact.

Greetings,
Douglas.

DavidJayUden 10-14-2013 11:30 AM

Unfortunately, Douglas, there are quite a number of live war trophy full autos around the
U. S. They can no longer be legally registered and the only legal recourse is to give them to a museum, cut them up, or surrender them to the ATF. So folks just choose to keep them covered up. It really is a shameful situation.
Regarding deactivating a Luger for ownership in Great Britian, it happens every day. We just don't see the before photos.
Look at the bright side. The next time Gerry comes to visit, we can loan the Brit's our "real" firearms with which to defend herself. Again.
dju

alanint 10-14-2013 11:53 AM

Just for clarification, I clearly stated I would move on and NOT own a live bring back if I came across it. I would not be the one to ruin it just to posses it. I'm not proposing anything illegal, I'm just saying I'd pass on anything I had to ruin myself in order to own.

As far as live, unregistered MGs in the US, as Daveid pointed out, there are hundreds, if not thoussands still sitting in our Veteran's attics. The ATF has been promising for over 15 years to establish an amnesty window for these guns, but have not had the political cojones to actually implement it. The sad reality is that all of these vets who beld to posses these war trophies are currently in violation of this stupid law.

DavidJayUden 10-14-2013 01:07 PM

After WW1 many of the purchasers of US Savings Bonds received a dewat Maxim gun in appreciation for their investments. Now lots of those guns still exist but no one know that they had to be registered years later. So they are now unregistered and illegal, making criminals of otherwise law-abiding citizens.
I have come across, or heard of, at least a dozen over the recent years. They are all really neat and I'd love to have them, but none are worth touching...
dju

alanint 10-14-2013 02:33 PM

It is possible, in this particular case, to rewat one of those guns, if all documentation is present.
In the past, ATF has been known to accept the paperwork from programs like this as an original "registration" of the gun. I once rewatted a beautiful 1918 Winchester BAR by using a Dept. of the Treasury document aknowledgement that the gun had been dewatted. With this document in hand, I showed that the gun was a "Registered Dewat", which can legally be "rewatted", which was duly done and then transferred on a Form 3.

DavidJayUden 10-14-2013 03:19 PM

A:
Try it without that orig. Dept. Of The Treasury (formerly the handlers of the ATF) document. No previous registration, no nothing. If they are registered, then RE-watting is no problem, and usually quite easily accomplished.
dju

alanint 10-14-2013 03:41 PM

Not just a Dept. of the Treasury document. I've seen capture papers/ Unit officer authorization chits used to successfully register weapons in the past. It all depends on the particular circumstances and the paperwork available.


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