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Ben Evans 10-09-2013 09:03 AM

1917 Artillery Luger & Rig
 
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Ben Evans 10-09-2013 09:08 AM

This is the rig, the holster is unmarked, it came with its strip down tool and original barrel cleaning rod. It even had a bit of patch stuffed into the slot where the rod goes. The only damage to the holster is the stitching on the loop, other than that its all fine.

Ben Evans 10-09-2013 09:09 AM

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Ben Evans 10-09-2013 09:14 AM

There is a ink stamp on the inside of the flap but I cannot make out what it says, probably a unit mark?

Ben Evans 10-09-2013 09:20 AM

This is the stock, it is matching numbered to the pistol and has a mark on it.

Ben Evans 10-09-2013 09:24 AM

Thats it for now until the gun arrives back next week. It is all matching apart from the side plate, trigger and locking lever. (and the mag) if he comes across these pieces he will give me a ring and post them onto me. I have sourced the missing bits so have a complete pistol. The whole thing including replacement bits cost me $1300 which in the UK is less than half the retail price. Any info guys would be greatly appreciated

Cheers

Ben

alanint 10-09-2013 10:56 AM

The holster is either a Persian, which did not have the same quality of the German holsters or a reproduction.

George Anderson 10-09-2013 11:46 AM

The holster is original German WWI in my opinion.

Norme 10-09-2013 12:09 PM

A Persian Artillery holster can be distinguished by the "ears" on the lid of the cleaning rod sheath, which are folded over extensions of the lid. The "ears" on original German holsters are separate sewn on discs.
Regards, Norm

Ben Evans 10-09-2013 12:17 PM

Cheers for that Norm, do you mean these?

pors12 10-09-2013 02:42 PM

Hi,

I would expect steel buttons on such a holster.
Arent these brass ?

regards

Otto

saab-bob 10-09-2013 03:49 PM

Hello Ben
Thanks for the great gun pics and Welcome!
I just had a quick question.How much does it cost to have Ryton Arms deactivate your guns? Does the government pay for this or do you?:confused:

To the forum members. Check out the website for Ryton Arms
http://www.rytonarms.co.uk/home.php

They have some really interesting items. Be prepared to shed a tear when you see the beautiful Thompson M1A1's that have been neutered!:surr:
Even a innocent 22 target pistol is not exempt from this outrage.:eek:
So sad.
Bob

Ben Evans 10-09-2013 04:03 PM

Hi Bob and many thanks for ther welcome :) It cost £60 to be deactivated and no mate the government does not give you the money back lol I wish. A few years ago if a weapon was found like that it would have been destroyed but they changed the law as people were keeping hold and selling live guns on. If sold to the wrongs hands they could be used to harm people. The Police now would rather a live gun is bought in and deactivated than sold on to a third party, in their eyes its another live weapon off the streets. I used to have a Smith and Wesson 686, Mk 3 browning, 32 and 22 Hammereli and a 22 Des. I had to hand them all in to be destroyed after the Dunlbane macacre (as did everyone else) I claimed back for my powders, Lee turret press. police leather shooting rigs, speed loaders etc.

saab-bob 10-09-2013 06:18 PM

Ben
Thanks for the info.
Sounds like you used to enjoy target shooting with pistols.
Enjoy your Lugers. The gents on this forum are very, very knowledgeable and happy to help out with any info.
Cheers Mate:cheers:
Bob

alanint 10-09-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Anderson (Post 241870)
The holster is original German WWI in my opinion.

George, I completely respect your observation, but did the stitching really get to be that sloppy on originals? I'm seeing edges that are not dressed, stitching that is uneven and wrinkled leather where the stitching has bunched, etc. If original, this is the most poorly executed WW1 holster I have ever seen.


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