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TheRomanhistorian 09-26-2013 10:20 PM

New police Luger
 
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So, I saw this at my local gun shop for $500 and I snapped her up at such a good deal. The pistol has no date, DWM toggle, and is all matching. Serial number 7799 and M on the frame. Buffed and refinished with mismatched magazine and aftermarket grips.

The grip says SP. Bn. 251. (which is crossed out) and then 1920. is stamped in.

DavidJayUden 09-26-2013 10:26 PM

Interesting location for the property stamp.
Nice find.
dju

rolandtg 09-26-2013 11:08 PM

Nice price for an attractive, interesting shooter! Looks like a nice magazine too.

TheRomanhistorian 09-27-2013 08:18 AM

To be fair, there was some sheen of surface rust on some of the internals but a good strip down and cleaning as well as oiling took care of that. Seems like the last owner was just a bit neglectful? Pretty though definitely a shooter.

I read the markings as Schutzpolizei Bremen (formerly gun number) 251. No sign of any Russian capture marks (which could have been buffed out) and no sign of importer marks.

Don M 09-27-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 241131)
Interesting location for the property stamp.

That's not a property stamp. It's a reassigned inventory number. See Table 17-2 of HWIS for adjacent inventory numbers of the Bremen Schupo.

Don M 09-27-2013 11:33 AM

Michael, is there any evidence that 7,65 stamped on the chamber was removed? Many of these pistols were used by the Bremen Schupo for a period of time in their original caliber before being converted to 9 mm.

Jack Lawman 09-27-2013 01:29 PM

Your Bremen pistol is of the "SP." marked variety. Others are marked "S.P."

I don't believe the reason for this is known.

Does your pistol bear the number "251" on the rear of the frame?

Here are two other examples:
http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=31211

Jack

TheRomanhistorian 09-27-2013 01:54 PM

Jack - No, there's nothing on the rear of the frame. I can't tell if it's because of the buffing for refinishing (some areas are heavily buffed like parts of the toggle).

Don - I'm not seeing any sign of that but I could also just not be looking closely enough, either.

Don M 09-27-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Lawman (Post 241176)
Your Bremen pistol is of the "SP." marked variety. Others are marked "S.P." I don't believe the reason for this is known.

Jack, you are correct although I suspect that S.P. may have been initiated by the Sicherheitspolizei and it was later changed to SP. after they were merged to form the Schutzpolizei. Just a guess, however.

Michael, although most of the Bremen Alphabet Commercials are reported as having a canceled 7,65 on the chamber, not all are so reported. The standard approach appears to have been to x-out this number when the gun was reworked, so perhaps yours never had it.


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