Wooden Artillery Stock
 

Gents

I noticed a Artillery Luger wooden holster shoulder stock up for bid on this weekends RIA sale.
Haven't seen one since these old E-bay auctions.
If these where really made by DWM or Erfurt,this one would have be a real one.:confused:
I am sure will bid up above my budget!:surr:

Bob
http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/59/lid/1400

Attachment 36059

Wow!
Well,somebody thought that stock was real.
It just sold for $13,000 + fees on the RIA action.:jumper:
Wonder who was the lucky winner?:thumbup:
Bob

Both appear to have been removed!

I have seen pictures and one at a local auction I wanted to buy, but it went way above my pocketbook ;)

BTW, I moved this to its own thread.

Ed

Cirelaw
Just tried my link,it still works.
Take care!
Bob

We aim to please!~~~Eric

Pictures of my wooden holster set.

Regards from germany
Thosbi

Thosbi, Well..That is just about the coolest thing EVER! The stock looks like the recent stocks made by a fellow in Germany..Did you have the leather made? It's almost good enough to pass for original. NICE Tell us more and welcome to the Forum!

Wow indeed! That is a really nice setup. I'm curious about artilleries and that's the first time I have seen one set up that way, with the wooden portion inside the leather holster. Did they issue setups like the one Thosbi shows here. I would imagine if they did issue a complete setup like this to someone in the military at that time. Or is this a commercial style setup someone could purchase if these desired back then. Either way, that is really nice. Thanks for the photos Thosbi.

@ skeeter4206

For comparison.
Here is the original and more information about:
http://jamesdjulia.com/item/3073-358/
http://jamesdjulia.com/item/3073a-358/

@ lugerholsterrepair

Yes, the stock comes from Mr. Basnakowski.
( The same source as that of Harry )
The leather was made ​​by Mr. Axel Zimmermann
http://www.ledermanufaktur-zimmerman...dex%20eng.html

Both are perfect work. :thumbup:

Regards
Thosbi

Some of these repro "broom type" LPO8 stocks were made in Poland about 20 years ago and a few were imported into the USA by Collectors Armory and sold for around $600 each. TH

Thosbi..Both are perfect work. Yes! I can vouch for the stock..I had one delivered here. I got to inspect it for a day or two. Mr. Basnakowski is a master stock maker..the wood and metal are top notch. The leather on it is very well done too! Could you post a picture of the backside? I would be interested to see how it is carried. Also the price Mr. Zimmermann charges for one?
Thanks!

So what is the legal status of these stocks in the USA?
dju

Technically, if a stock can be proven to have a historical contex, a reproduction of said stock is generlly allowed. The one glaring exception seems to be C96 stocks, which must be original

These are very handsome looking stock-holsters, the prototypes; I haven't quite grasped how massive they are, but fully enclosing an artillery is not a small job... :eek:

The length of pull must be something like 16"/17"+...

More pictures and information of the wooden holster set.

- length of the wooden holster is 40 cm
- length of the leather is 42 cm
- the price for the leather was 850 Euro.
(Mr. Zimmermann needed for working 32 hours!! :eek:)


Regards
Thosbi

...+5cm for the Luger = 50cm...That's 19 5/8 inches length of pull... :eek:

That's a good long reach!!! :D

Most US rifles/shotguns are right around ~14 inches [35.56cm]...

ATF also allows reproduction stocks for a Broomhandle. Again like the Artillery it must duplicate an original. They do not address a prototype so might be tricky. Bill

The wording of the 1981 BATFE letter permitting reproduction stocks states:
“…any Luger or Browning Hi-Power pistol which would be removed from the purview of the NFA if equipped with an original shoulder stock, would also not be subject to the NFA if equipped with a reproduction shoulder stock which either duplicates or closely approximates the dimensions and configuration of the original stock.”

The ATF curio and relic list statement for the LP08 that is removed from the purview of the NFA reads as follows: “Luger, German model 1914, Artillery model pistol, mfd. by DWM or Erfurt, having chambers dated 1914-1918, bearing Imperial German military proofmarks & accompanied by the original, German mfd. artillery type, detachable wooden shoulder stocks.”

Note that the configuration of the shoulder stock is not stipulated. For the Navy Luger it is expressly stipulated that the stock must be “…original board-type detachable shoulder stocks bearing brass or iron discs…”, and goes on to give the exact dimensions of a Navy stock.

Since the prototype stock meets the requirement of being “German mfd. artillery type, detachable wooden shoulder stock”, it would seem to follow that an exact reproduction of the prototype meets the criteria for exemption.