New to me DWM 7.65mm: Pics!
 

No date. Original mag, but not numbered to gun.

All in excellent working order, but in a caliber I don't shoot. Any idea of ballpark asking price I should tag it with?

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$ 1200 or so.

That is a bit overpriced for a Commercial Luger in 7.65mm with the finish issues on the sideplate and magazine, in my opinion. There is also edge wear and discoloration throughout the pistol.

$1,000 would be closer to what I would pay.

BTW, one of your grip screws appears to be a proofed Erfurt replacement. You might consider selling/swapping this screw out to a collector for a little bit of extra cash before selling the pistol.

It's a nice gun, the vast majority of the P.08 you can find here in Italy are generally below that standard, and discolorattion is common, at least here, for a pistol of that age. Here I guess it would cost about 1300,00 Euro.

1923 Commercial
 

Looks like a pretty nice 1923 Commercial to me- $1100?

Would a 1923 DWM Commercial have a 5 digit serial number?

Thanks for the replies!

I missed that proof on the screw. Only one screw has the stamp. It looks like a crown, but there is no lettering.

The edge wear is likely from being holstered in an old ALP 1911 holster instead of Luger holster.

nice, but not rare...
 

I've been following 1920 style commercials on Gun Broker for quite some time now... and I see many, similar condition guns, priced for $1200.00 or more, and they never ever get a bid?? Most listed for $1000.00 or below, sell well, and those for $750.00 to $900.00 sell almost every time.... So I think the $1000.00 evaluation would be pretty close... Of course, if you can get more! Certainly don't pass that up! ...:)..best to you, til...lat'r....GT...:cheers:

5 digit number commercials
 

mrerick- my understanding is that the 5 digit commercials are 1923 models, but I could be wrong. :) KW

In fact, the continious numbering (with five digits) was dropped by DWM/BKIW in 1922. After that date the Commercial guns were serialized as military guns (four digits and a suffix). So, since Jan Still's "Weimar Lugers", pistols with five digits are called 1920 DWM. Later guns (with suffixes) were named Alphabet Lugers.

All the best,
Douglas

So...gotta ask...are new Lugers being produced? The workmanship is superb, so I expect that they are too expensive to produce today. But given the advances with CNC it seems like the old designs would be a snap to reproduce. Hand fitting would still be needed on some parts, but certainly the milling portions are easier now than ever.

I have a buddy with a Luger in .22 lr. Its a neat gun and would make a nice addition if it were available.

I, personally, know of no Lugers being produced currently. There have been some limited factory produced Lugers in the 1990 and maybe even the 2000s, but they are VERY expensive, and rare to find.

5 digit commercials
 

Thanks for setting me straight on the 5 digit serial number commercials, Douglas Jr. Guess I have to get some more up-to-date books! :) KW