A couple of quick bbl pix - NEW & IMPROVED.
 

NEW PIX LOWER DOWN IN THREAD.


Someone asked to see the witness mark on my pistol in the grip thread. I snapped this quickie - number matches, etc - but it looks to me like the witness mark is "off" slightly. If this pic isn't good enough - I'll have to drag out the tripod, closeup filters, and lights again...

Also, a bore pic.

Can't see detail, but yes - the barrel has been off the pistol.

Take your pictures using a digital camera on a tripod. Set it for closeups and don't use flash. Take them outdoors in shaded, indirect sunlight.

Sometimes the shiny nature of metal fools the autofocus of cameras, so you end up trying several times before getting a good exposure that is sharp and detailed.

Marc

Like I said, I'll have to drag the tripod, closeup filters, softbox, lights, all that stuff out.

I wonder why the barrel was removed?

at times it is a lie, barrel was not removed, that said, yours was (too much movement).

hard to say why its been changed, since the sn is the same? I am guessing that the proof marks are correct, i.e. eagle N's matching eagle N's or nazi proof eagle matching nazi proof eagle.

Ed

I'm going to re-confirm the proofs, stand by...

The barrel may not have been completely removed. Someone in the past may have adjusted the sights by rotating the barrel to correct point of aim. This would normally be an armorer or gunsmith operation. Can't say for sure for your gun, but it is a possibility.

Its becoming an interesting question for sure!

New pix.

First, the witness mark and serial number. Ignore the white balance issue, in person the serial number shows a faint halo.

Second, the proof marks:

Thirdly, another proof on the barrel in an odd (???) location:

Under this lighting the witness mark offset does not look any worse than some other guns I've examined.


I think Ron is right and that this was tweeked to get the POA dead on.

I think Ron is right and that this was tweeked to get the POA dead on. Guys I have to wonder about that theory! Any shooter is not likely to grab onto a Luger barrel and twist it a 16th of an inch to adjust the sights! Just doesn't seem likely that the average guy would have the knowledge to do this..without marking the barrel. Just as likely bullet throw in the lands and grooves twisted it? Just thinking out loud...

Barrel looks sweet!

I think factory done??
 

For whatever reason, I don't yet know???... But I can tell you this much, if you line the marks up perfectly, the front sight base will be canted...also, I think in the vast majority of cases, the mark on the receiver only, is perfectly centered and true... As for the barrel marks, some are perfectly aligned, and some are off... I think that the barrel mark was just a reference for correct barrel torque... I also believed, during early production assembly, it could have been assembled and then dismantled for some unknown reason, and reassembled, and then, on some, remarked??... Sight alignment, is a whole nother step! These guys were Germans, they though nothing of adding 5 extra steps to a one step process?? :).. Best to all, til...lat'r....GT

That is why I said it would be a gunsmith or armorer operation.

Ron, Yeah..BUT! If this pistol came to a gunsmith or armorer I am wondering if this would be a legitimate approach to adjusting the sights? Lugers are not know nor were they intended to be target pistols..how much adjustment would it make to twist the barrel out of spec/headspace? A cant/slant to the front sight, seems like adjusting left or right could be accomplished by pushing the sight over in the dovetail and what else could you want? Nothing you can do about up or down? Again..just thinking out loud.

Good thinking...I'll be quiet now :)

Ron, Your theory makes at least as much sense as anything else..Like I said..just kicking it around to see what pops up. It could very well be correct for all I know..There are many if not all that know more about this than I ever will.

Nothing ever assembled, disassembled and reassembled will ever go back together 100% exactly as the original assembly.

The theory of turning barrel for sight adjustment has one hole -- the front sight on Luger is not fixed, a new sight blade can be put on and adjusted by moving it little bit to the left or to the right, then add a alignment mark there. For sight adjusting purpose, why didn't people doing that, that's easier.... Of course, the barrel can be turned for that purpose, but at least, if it's done by German, they should have a standard procedure on sight adjustment..... turning the barrel, or moving the sight blade?

German Engineering
 

How True is this statement....and how many times has my wife accused me of the same thing.....by the way...My Family is German from the Rheinland Pfalz area......but I love this statement that was posted...

"These guys were Germans, they though nothing of adding 5 extra steps to a one step process?? .. Best to all, til...lat'r....GT"


This really makes me smile because it is so true...


Danke.....Hans Fischer