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318is_Parabellum 08-04-2013 06:39 PM

Unit marking on RC Simson blank chamber P. 08: "M.W./L.u.V.J.3."
 
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Hello,
2nd post on this forum.

I recently acquired a rather interesting P. 08, and I thought that posting about it here would help shed some light on it's past...

Simson blank chamber serial # 5827
Simson and Co. Suhl marked toggle, all matching with Simson E/6 proofs on all small parts (including axle pin) except:
-the ground, renumbered/force matched sideplate,
-9mm 4 inch crown/N marked (replacement) barrel (original E/6-proofed front sight present on replacement barrel)
-sear bar replaced with plum bar w/ obliterated mark

Partial 'circle X' mark on front of frame below serial number (Russian capture mark, correct?)

2 E/6 proofs on stock lug bottom
E/6, E/6, E/6 and Weimar Eagle (firing?) proof on R side of frame/'barrel extension
E. German extruded blued steel marked "2/1001' with ground and forced match Al bottom

Sarco import-marked just above R grip (poor fitting wood replacement grips, no E/6 proofs on grip screws)

UNIT MARKED on front grip strap:

M.W./L.u.V.J.3.

I suspect this is a Weimar-era Reichswehr unit marking, the "M.W." means 'minen werfer'/trench mortar if I am correct?

Help with interpreting this unit mark is much appreciated!!

Sorry for the wall of text, I wanted to be precise in my description!

I thank the experts present here for their opinions and observations regarding my pistol!

Edward Tinker 08-04-2013 06:48 PM

Excellent report, all the info I need for my database ;)

I have a East German that started as a simson much like yours, except the toggle was replaced by a Erfurt toggle.

Not sure on unit marking.

Ed

318is_Parabellum 08-04-2013 07:11 PM

Any insight into the production date? 1929-1931 is my guess so far? Thanks!

Edward Tinker 08-04-2013 09:25 PM

Yes, my guess would be 1928 to 1929


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