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Gebirg 06-06-2013 02:48 PM

Miss HSc 703857 - i am stunned...3 cuts on grip plate???
 
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Look at this beauty, got it today - i dont now what to say...
The finish, the holster - almost brand new...
I think pistol, holster and mags has always been together since 1941...


NOTICE: the three cuts on the left grip plate high..., what could that mean???


This is one of the most...


Thank you

NoncomRetired 06-06-2013 03:59 PM

Real nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The cuts are uniform, the indentations, I would think, happened by something other than individual cuts.

alanint 06-06-2013 04:21 PM

Possibly, but we must at least consider that these are the original pistol owner's "kill" marks, since they seem to have been so meticulously applied, without damaging the surrounding area.

Gebirg 06-06-2013 04:41 PM

Thanks...
Yes, i think kill marks too - i my be nuts, but i think so...?

Edward Tinker 06-06-2013 09:54 PM

Members aren't allowed to do color and b&w?

Must be a new rule...

Gebirg 06-07-2013 12:17 AM

Same pistol, not black and white but almost...

Is this not legal at this forum, with both color and B&W?

alanint 06-07-2013 04:47 AM

Gebirg, you can post any kind of color you want. Color simply helps in valuing a pistol, but there is nothing against an "artistic" photo.

Gebirg 06-07-2013 07:43 AM

Great thanks alanint, i like BW photo also somtimes...

kubel 06-07-2013 10:21 AM

I sincerely doubt those are "kill" marks. Pistols were issued primarily for self defense, not as an offensive weapon such as a sniper rifle. Besides, any German who turned over a pistol with "kill" marks notched in the grip were sure to end up as the next "kill" mark.

NoncomRetired 06-07-2013 10:53 AM

To me the marks are consistent to spring ring marks....just too uniformed....IMO.

alanint 06-07-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kubel (Post 235064)
I sincerely doubt those are "kill" marks. Pistols were issued primarily for self defense, not as an offensive weapon such as a sniper rifle. Besides, any German who turned over a pistol with "kill" marks notched in the grip were sure to end up as the next "kill" mark.

Ordinarily, I would agree. We are, however, talking about the sidearm of a representative of an extremely brutal regime. "Kill" marks would not be entirely out of place here and I am quite sure that the prospect of being captured would not have prevented any member of this regime from "keeping score", especially early in the war.

Another posibility are cuts from a particular ring from a left handed shooter?

kubel 06-07-2013 03:43 PM

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We are, however, talking about the sidearm of a representative of an extremely brutal regime.
Agreed, although the majority of Germans during the Third Reich were normal people, just like you and me. :eek:

Although kill markings would greatly enhance the story of any weapon, outside of Hollywood, I'm not sure that was even a German tradition. Almost every supposed kill marking I've ever seen on any weapon was done by a GI on a GI weapon and usually postwar to enhance value or create awe.

Anyway, I would think that anyone proud enough to put kill marks on a weapon probably would've been a little more deliberate and/or elaborate and probably wouldn't have put them in that location. The markings on the pistol depicted look more like symmetrical dents impressed into the wood by some object it was pressed against (a spring as mentioned?) rather than intentionally inscribed kill markings.

To me, it's kind of like seeing the face of Jesus in a cloud. Is it really Jesus? A coincidence? Or people seeing what they want to believe? Nobody will probably ever know the real answer.

kzullick 06-07-2013 04:03 PM

There are numerous reasons they might be there, years of service, number of times he cleaned it, number of kids he had, years since it was issued, trips to Berlin etc. etc.

Gebirg 06-07-2013 05:29 PM

I think this discussion is great!

Gebirg 06-07-2013 06:16 PM

Or female laydowns;) Ha ha!

Douglas Jr. 06-07-2013 11:02 PM

A great addition to any collection.
And nice pictures, too.


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