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Police DWM 1913 with the sear saftey

Pretty sure the grips are older repro, as the holes in the rear many times are just like that, and no last two of the serial number. The grips are in the Swiss style, not the p08 style.

The side plate I am pretty sure is an Erfurt, but it being cut for a sear safety is weird ;)

Ed

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker (Post 233769)

Thanks Ed! I figured the grips didn't go with the gun. Do you mean the side plate was meant for another gun? It has the same number stamped on it.

Side plate has the Enfurt crown. So, same number but from a different pistol.

Grips are repro as stated above. I think Italian made?

Bob

That stamping beside the numbers on the side plate appears to be an Erfurt stamping suggesting that is originally an Erfurt-made part. I'm a bit confused by that and the matching numbers too. And the 4 serial numbers on the left side of the barrel extension seem a bit smaller than usual too. No white paint in the safety lettering.
But we need to keep in mind that once the police got ahold of them there were parts replaced, bluing re-blued, grips replaced, mags. and numbers re-stamped. These guns rarely match in the way that we are used to.
You asked about value, and I'd put it around $800, but the police Luger guys may tell me I'm all wet.
Welcome aboard.
dju

No David, price is about right on.....

The pistol also has a stock lug. Looks to be a b under the number on the frame, not sure if the b range had stock lugs on a 1913 yet?

One of the most rough looking stamped 1920 I've seen so far.

Rough? I wouldn't say that exactly. It's certainly seen use, but I've seen worse. You must have some pristine pistols in your collection. :)

I believe stock lugs started around 4000 b. Bill

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Originally Posted by kk5fe (Post 233830)

Rough? I wouldn't say that exactly. It's certainly seen use, but I've seen worse. You must have some pristine pistols in your collection. :)

I think he is refering to the crudely done "1920" property stamp...

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Originally Posted by kk5fe (Post 233830)

Rough? I wouldn't say that exactly. It's certainly seen use, but I've seen worse. You must have some pristine pistols in your collection. :)

I meant how they stamped the 1920 property mark off center etc., not the overall condition of the pistol.:)

1 step or 2 above tilled up from the back 40 is more like the majority of my collection:(

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Originally Posted by Patronen (Post 233844)

:)

I meant how they stamped the 1920 property mark off center etc., not the overall condition of the pistol.:)

1 step or 2 above tilled up from the back 40 is more like the majority of my collection:(

Ahhh.... Gotcha. Yes I agree with that. Looks like it was done on a Friday just before quiting time..... :)

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Originally Posted by kk5fe (Post 233857)

Ahhh.... Gotcha. Yes I agree with that. Looks like it was done on a Friday just before quiting time..... :)

...or maybe on a bet, to see if it could be done blindfolded!

Don't know about Erfurts but believe stock lugs on 1913 DWM around 4000b. Bill

Bill, you are correct- I got my manufacturers crossed.