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NoncomRetired 04-03-2013 10:19 AM

Never seen one like this.............
 
Quite nice, quite expensive but still very very nice.


http://www.emedals.com/collectors-ga...g8512?vmcchk=1

Douglas Jr. 04-03-2013 01:13 PM

The broken pin and missing hook on the back of a Iron Cross 2nd Class of this level is weird. I've seen some "field made" upgrades as such, but they are crude. It simply doesn't make sense to me.

NoncomRetired 04-03-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Douglas Jr. (Post 231813)
The broken pin and missing hook on the back of a Iron Cross 2nd Class of this level is weird. I've seen some "field made" upgrades as such, but they are crude. It simply doesn't make sense to me.

I think the recipient might have first had it made into both 1st and 2nd Cl and worn as one. Whatever, however or why, the guy had money. Here's where accompanied History would come in handy. For sure, it's not a piece of costume jewelry.

I'll be interested when, if or how fast it sells. These people get a hold of some select pieces.

NoncomRetired 04-03-2013 01:43 PM

Here's an issued 1870 1st Class just posted, it's not cheap either:

http://www.emedals.com/collectors-ga...g8515?vmcchk=1

NoncomRetired 04-04-2013 07:09 AM

After thinking on this, it could have been made into a piece of jewelry, an expensive piece by some wife or even later by a daughter. It could have been worn either as a brooch or on a gold chain. Notice how the chain rings are able to fold inward when then at one time with the latch, now gone, it could have been worn as a brooch.

alvin 04-04-2013 09:00 AM

Just curious, what's supposed to be the material of this medal? gold, silver, or iron, or ... I don't know.

Douglas Jr. 04-04-2013 09:00 AM

Really don't know.
Just too many "ifs" for a piece with this price tag.

alanint 04-04-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by alvin (Post 231870)
Just curious, what's supposed to be the material of this medal? gold, silver, or iron, or ... I don't know.

The inner core is iron, which is what gave the original medals their name. Issued medals then had the iron enclosed via a German Silver outer frame. This is composed of two half shells, which enclose the iron core. They are soldered together.

This appears to have been privately made by taking an original iron core, (with the dates and oak leaves) and a new frame of precious metal fabricated to hold the core. It is a nice example of a private purchase item, but has no historical significanse in the sense that it is an issued and approved higher award, like in the case of Hans-Ulrich Rudel in WW2.

George Anderson 04-04-2013 11:29 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Here's a real one.

NoncomRetired 04-04-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson (Post 231878)
Here's a real one.

Real nice...yours?

George Anderson 04-04-2013 12:05 PM

Yes.

NoncomRetired 04-04-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson (Post 231880)
Yes.

Excellent condition...............:cheers:


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