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Sergio Natali 03-09-2013 10:07 AM

1900 american eagle with original ideal stock
 
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This is one of my best pieces., I wonder if one of our Luger experts would be able to tell me more about it.

Edward Tinker 03-09-2013 11:02 AM

Lovely

show close ups of the markings on the 1900 / full left / full right / close up of stock


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Sergio Natali 03-09-2013 03:42 PM

I've not got any better photos, but tomorrow I'll find the time to fiddle with my camera and I'll post a few more pictures.

Sergio Natali 03-29-2013 04:57 PM

photos of the 1900 AMERICAN EAGLE WITH IDEAL STOCK
 
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I managed to take some photos of my beauty, sorry to keep you waiting but recently I've not had much spare time.

Edward Tinker 03-29-2013 05:01 PM

Well, its a 1900 American Eagle, can't make out the serial number.

And the Ideal stock is way cool to have :)

lugersrkewl 03-29-2013 05:11 PM

7284? why does it have extra screw in the grips? for snugness?
very nice pistol and wow on the stock.

sheepherder 03-29-2013 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lugersrkewl (Post 231577)
7284? why does it have extra screw in the grips?

To hold the wood to the [steel] backing plate [where stock attaches]. (No gripframe lug).

Sergio Natali 03-30-2013 07:28 AM

Postino is right, and about the serial number I realize is not that clear, anyway it's 7234

Lugerdoc 03-31-2013 09:49 AM

Your #7234 M1900 AE, was made soon after the run of 1000 of these for the US military test (6100-7100 approximately). It's possible, if your luger is not stamped "Germany" on the front of the frame, and the TD lever is serialized on the flat, rather than the bottom, your luger may have also gone to the US military order. THe US made IDEAL Corp stocks were first patented in 1910, and were a popular addition to these early non-stock luger pistols. TH

Ron Wood 03-31-2013 02:17 PM

That is one of the better condition Ideal stocks that I have seen. The leather is in much better than average condition. It has to be in the top end of surviving examples. Congratulations on an excellent piece.
As Tom (Lugerdoc) has mentioned, your gun is very close to the US Test Trials serial number range. I am relatively sure it does not have a GERMANY export stamp as all of the examples in the approximate 6000-8000 serial number range do not have this stamp. It is my opinion that any serial number above 7200 is very unlikely to have actually been involved in the trials but we probably will never know.
Thank you for sharing this excellent "rig"!
Ron

Sergio Natali 04-04-2013 01:41 PM

Yes I confirm there is no GERMANY written anywhere. Thanks a lot for your opinions.

Ron Wood 04-04-2013 02:11 PM

Sergio,
The serial number of your exellent 1900 American Eagle was reported to me by Sam Costanzo years ago. It is interesting that it now resides in Italy. I looked at your album...you have a very nice collection! Could you please provide some additional photos and information about your 1900 Swiss?
Thank you,
Ron

Sergio Natali 04-05-2013 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 231882)
Sergio,
The serial number of your exellent 1900 American Eagle was reported to me by Sam Costanzo years ago. It is interesting that it now resides in Italy. I looked at your album...you have a very nice collection! Could you please provide some additional photos and information about your 1900 Swiss?
Thank you,
Ron

Thanks but I'm only a very very small Luger collector, I used to have some P.08 but last year (sadly) one by one I sold them all as I was fed up to have "cheap collectible". In fact as you probably know here in Italy it's illegal to own 9 Parabellum caliber guns, so even the most scarce and expensive Imperial Navy Luger before being put on the market has got to be "mutilated" in the chamber to change the caliber to 9x21 IMI. So in theory the "real collectible value" in Italy of any P.08 is very close to zero!

LU1900 04-05-2013 08:43 AM

Any chance , the law change ?
Same problem in France for rifle , but a new law for the end year come to stop that .

Sergio Natali 04-05-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LU1900 (Post 231902)
Any chance , the law change ?
Same problem in France for rifle , but a new law for the end year come to stop that .

Very unlikely

LU1900 04-05-2013 09:17 AM

A shame like in my country !!
Stupids politics !!

John Sabato 04-05-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LU1900 (Post 231904)
A shame like in my country !!
Stupids politics !!

Unfortunately, Stupid politics are not limited to just your country! :banghead:

Douglas Jr. 04-05-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato (Post 231908)
Unfortunately, Stupid politics are not limited to just your country! :banghead:

"Stupid politics" is redundancy.
In fact, it is an universal issue. I think this is what they called "globalization".

And congratulaions for you excellent Luger and Ideal Stock. Really a excellent rig and a highlight in any collection.

Douglas

skeeter4206 04-06-2013 12:44 AM

Beautiful 1900 AE luger. Looking at the backside of your handgrip I am curious. This is the first ideal stock I have seen good pictures of.

I know the later P08 lugers have a stock lug on the backside of the grip. I dont see one on yours.

Being a 1900 I know they have the grip safety on the handle, is this the reason there is no stock lug on these earlier style lugers? And also how exactly does it attach to the grip?

Sergio Natali 04-06-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by skeeter4206 (Post 231956)
Beautiful 1900 AE luger. Looking at the backside of your handgrip I am curious. This is the first ideal stock I have seen good pictures of.

I know the later P08 lugers have a stock lug on the backside of the grip. I dont see one on yours.

Being a 1900 I know they have the grip safety on the handle, is this the reason there is no stock lug on these earlier style lugers? And also how exactly does it attach to the grip?

I see it's completely different from the usual stock grips of the other Lugers, in fact if you notice at the backside of the grip you can see that there are two little slots made for the Ideal Stock


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