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NoncomRetired 02-15-2013 02:19 PM

Not in my new book.....bummer.
 
Today I recieved in the post with a smile, Jeff Noll's book on Imperial German Unit markings. I like doing my own research but do to old age, sometimes I have to ask what comes first the 'A' or the 'B'.:D

I didn't get much feedback earlier when I posted help on a unit mark, "M.G.T.R.9.K." 1916 DWM and I see why. Can't find it anywhere in the book. M.G. (Machinenegewehr) but the T.R. that follows is not there. 'T' for trains, 'R' for Regt/Fus/Gren or 'T.R.' for Recruitung Depot of a telegraph Det but.....the 'T' is not a script 't. In Jeff's book there is no mention of M.G.T.R.9.K. even on pages for 1916 unit marked DWMs.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

sheepherder 02-15-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NoncomRetired (Post 229221)
Any ideas would be appreciated.

I looked at the list of your 16 threads, and the only one I see in the "Unit Markings" forum (besides this thread) is for another Luger...1915 DWM w/1. MG. 21. A. markings...

Do you have a pic of this Lugers' markings???

NoncomRetired 02-15-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 229222)
I looked at the list of your 16 threads, and the only one I see in the "Unit Markings" forum (besides this thread) is for another Luger...1915 DWM w/1. MG. 21. A. markings...

Do you have a pic of this Lugers' markings???

Thought sure that I posted these markings....
here's a photo:



http://i47.tinypic.com/2s12dz6.jpg

NoncomRetired 02-15-2013 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino (Post 229222)
I looked at the list of your 16 threads, and the only one I see in the "Unit Markings" forum (besides this thread) is for another Luger...1915 DWM w/1. MG. 21. A. markings...

Do you have a pic of this Lugers' markings???



http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=29452

Post #5

I didn't put a period after the 'T' in that post.

NoncomRetired 02-15-2013 05:03 PM

Your right again, did I mention I'm blind also!!!!SO!!! TR in my book says: Recruiting Depot of a Telegraph Detachment but I can't see that in conjunction with M.G. unit.

GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M.G.TR.9.K. is Kompagnie 9, leichter Maschinengewehr-Trupp

found unit marking, M.G.TR.11.K. on a 1917 DWM...................page 93, Jeff Nolls book.



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Originally Posted by postino (Post 229232)
OK, I see the text now...I guess the members here didn't think you were asking what that one was...

I don't see a period after the T in your pic...

I know zilch about units or their stampings, but that unit stamp of yours looks strange...Not fake, but rather like the letters G and T were done with two stamps...The seriph for the G is very strange, and the T has oversized droopy tips...Like the guy who stamped the letters didn't have the complete letter set and had to make do with what he had on hand... :p

Someone who knows these things should be along soon... ;)


Don M 02-16-2013 01:52 PM

Sadly, many collectors are rather cavalier about accurately reporting the placement of periods in unit markings but, as this thread demonstrates, they can make all the difference in the world!

klaus 3338 02-16-2013 03:14 PM

It is one of 111 leichte M.G. Trupps which was "made" in 1916.

NoncomRetired 02-16-2013 03:43 PM

Do you know what regiment 9 kompanie was assigned to?

I've found this:
Im Jahr 1916 aufgestellt: MGK 1-5 (Südarmee), 601-608, 701-709, 15 (Belgien), MGK 1-4 der 39.Res.Div but nothing on 9 kompanie.




Quote:

Originally Posted by klaus 3338 (Post 229284)
It is one of 111 leichte M.G. Trupps which was "made" in 1916.


klaus 3338 02-17-2013 02:55 AM

Sorry I do not have special information about parts of the the M.G. Trupps.
The M.G. units you mentioned above were Maschinen Gewehr Kompagnien (M.G.K.) and not Maschinen Gewehr Trupps (M.G.Tr.)
There were a lot of different M.G. units in the old Army: M.G.A.; M.G.SSch.A. and so on.


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