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NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 03:09 PM

My 1929 'sneak' police............
 
arrived today and I have an issue with it. I have to resize the photos and add them but I wanted first to give everyone my description. Please, all feel free to chime in:

All numbers match, including bottom wood based mag. Finish is original arsenal blue. It has the usual holster wear, muzzle, sideplate and edges. Wear on both front and back straps. Comparing this with my others I see no difference except..........not yet. Grips are very good, mag has small chip on it's left side, why are these chips always on the left side? Ser# 6151t. Crown N proof on left side and WaA66 below drop wing eagle on the right side. No more proofs. Ser #51 is on the back end of the toggle, on the trigger, locking bolt and sideplate.
Now!!! 51 is not in the usual location on the front of the sideplate and locking bolt, they are located underneath. On the left side toggle, there is a weak stamped nazi eagle. Photos on the way and I will wait to see how many others see the real issue with it.

Thanks

NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 03:18 PM

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NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 03:25 PM

I've not cleaned it yet so sorry for the mess

One more thing.......the barrel has the matching ser# w/crown over N but not the same letter.

pitsword 02-01-2013 03:31 PM

Is is missing strawing? I do not have a clue, maybe sneaks were not strawed.

NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 03:50 PM

Neather the locking bolt, mag release lever or the trigger is strawed. Just took it apart and can't see any remenants of them being strawed.

It had a mag safety and was removed, grip notch still there and the notch in the slide.

NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 03:55 PM

The barrel does not have the barrel dimensions at the rear bottom as my other lugers do.

NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 05:11 PM

Here are a few more shots:

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lugersrkewl 02-01-2013 06:25 PM

Still says should be a 4 inch bbl if im reading right

cirelaw 02-01-2013 06:44 PM

Beautiful I own "L. Ka. 124" Landjagerei marking from Kassel District. Serial #1940t. See History Writ in Steel, page 196~ Eric

NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugersrkewl (Post 228437)
Still says should be a 4 inch bbl if im reading right

It is, same as my others but nothing is stamped under the ser#.

NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 228440)
Beautiful I own "L. Ka. 124" Landjagerei marking from Kassel District. See History Writ in Steel, page 196~ Eric

Recieved my copy yesterday, I hope to get Ed's book next month.

What's the best book for military unit markings?

NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 228440)
Beautiful I own "L. Ka. 124" Landjagerei marking from Kassel District. See History Writ in Steel, page 196~ Eric

Does yours have straw parts? All the photos I've seen, they do.

I came across a comment about blued parts that are suppose to be strawed, it said lazyness from someone reblueing, didn't want to take the time but this luger has an arsenal finish. I hope someone here can shed the right light.

NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 06:57 PM

I was mistaken about the toggle eagle now that I can see it closer, it's a Crown N.

wlyon 02-01-2013 07:08 PM

The serial numbers on the sideplate and locking bolt are ok. These were in the commercial location.The barrels did not have the dimensions. It should have strawed parts. I believe the two suffix's are the same. The one has been buffed. I believe the whole gun was reblued including the strawed parts. See what others think. Bill

NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlyon (Post 228445)
The serial numbers on the sideplate and locking bolt are ok. These were in the commercial location. It should have strawed parts. I believe the two suffix's are the same. The one has been buffed. I believe the whole gun was reblued including the strawed parts. See what others think. Bill

Bill, the suffix on the barrel looks buffed out because it's under a very bright light for the photo, the blueing in that area is the same everywhere else. Do you think the barrel could have been replaced sometime with the difference in the ser# stamping? Just seems not as consistant.

NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 228447)
These were used daily. And we now are bless with two beautiful books dedicated to Germans police history. It took a while to put together. If you could add a correct matching holster its value will soar! ~ Eric

Don's book arrived yesterday, will acquire Ed'd book next month.

I will eventually get a holster. There's one on Gunbroker now but I have other bills at the moment.

cirelaw 02-01-2013 07:35 PM

It took me 3 years to complete. This holster was originally a mess! Jerry Burney worked his magic!!

cirelaw 02-01-2013 07:43 PM

Wear Pattern on toggle.
 
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Mine has simular rear wear pattern. That I believe is legit!!

wlyon 02-01-2013 08:37 PM

What do the witness marks look like? I still say this was buffed and reblued. I have been known to be wrong so. Bill

NoncomRetired 02-01-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlyon (Post 228460)
What do the witness marks look like? I still say this was buffed and reblued. I have been known to be wrong so. Bill

I'm new Bill, what's witness marks?

I do have a suspicion that someone along the way didn't like straw parts and did blue them. The finish looks legit except for the trigger, locking bolt, safety latch and mag latch. I do feel those parts were blued. But that's just a a guess. I came here to get the thoughts for all of you that have been around luger alot longer than me. If these parts were blued and should be strawed, which I believe do, I need to correct the problem if this is recommended by the experts.


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