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padredan 01-10-2013 03:20 PM

Mausers and remington rolling block rifles
 
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padredan 01-10-2013 04:04 PM

some from a friends collection, do not know alot about them, perhaps others do.

skeeter4206 01-10-2013 05:09 PM

Im curious about the one with the hexagon shape barrel portion. I just tried to look one up and the only one that comes up is the mosin nagant with hexagon shaped barrel. But the one you are showing has a different looking bolt, at least the rear portion of it, from what I can see. Is there anything marked on it?

Unique looking no doubt.

padredan 01-10-2013 07:49 PM

both of the bolt actions are mausers

padredan 01-10-2013 08:05 PM

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singleshotman 01-10-2013 09:46 PM

it's a 71/84 in 11mm mauser.Those are good rifles. although this one is in pretty bad shape.I once owned one that looked UNFIRED when my father bought in 1970 or so.He paid $55 if my memory is good, that was a long time ago and a different era.I just bought my first Luger and am thinking about gretting rid of it allready.Too dangerous to keep, maybe? Believe it or not my grandfather carried a Luger in Madero's revolution in 1911.That was a long time ago.my first cousin now ownes it.

padredan 01-10-2013 10:37 PM

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I can read the 71 84 on it and spandau

MikeP 01-10-2013 10:47 PM

Is that .41 Rimfire Vetterli considered a Mauser?
1st rifle I ever owned.

71/84s ae commonly found in exc to mint condition.
After conversion they were stored and never issued.
The 1888s were brought into service.

Many of the 71/84s found their way to the US.

padredan 01-10-2013 10:54 PM

thanks

Fazer 01-11-2013 06:18 AM

The Vetterli appears to be Swiss as opposed to Italian.

skeeter4206 01-11-2013 07:45 AM

Was just checking out Simpsonsltd.com and they had (2) 71/84's on there site. One was for $325 and looked kinda rough. Then there was a nice looking one for $1400. Looks like they have gone up a little in price since the 70's.

http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...f42e90f774a106

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71/84s ae commonly found in exc to mint condition.
After conversion they were stored and never issued.

Seeing this beast is 11mm. I bet it kicked like no other. Wonder if thats why it was never issued out. I bet it left quite a sore shoulder after a good day of shooting.

padredan 01-11-2013 09:05 AM

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what about the one with the side load?

skeeter4206 01-13-2013 10:31 PM

REmington rolling block rifles - Maybe!
 
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I was just checking out some rifles on rock island auction and saw some rifles that looked like the rolling block rifles in the following pictures provided.

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The 3rd rifle down looks like a Remington rolling block model 1867 or 1870. I seen one that was an egyptian that looked like it but had a unique design stock grain. Cal 11.43 x 50R. Prehaps this is this rifle.

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The last rifle looks like a REmington rolling block rifle 7MM model 1901. There is a military version of this rifle. This was also seen on rock island auction.

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I aint 100% sure if these are the exact rolling block rifles in this thread. The pctures in the thread are not the best to use in determining them. But maybe Im on the right track.

Im still looking for that side loading mauser. Im totally lost on it.

MikeP 01-13-2013 10:39 PM

The "side loader" is a M78 Swiss Vetterli.
I don't think it is any kind of Mauser. They also came in carbine form.
It is .41 Rimfire. 11--something mm.

The Italians also had a Vetterli which was somewhat similar.

They are very common and not expensive. Few hundred bucks.

Remington Rolling blocks were used by a great many countries in a great many calibers and variatios.

Denmark and Sweden used them as well as a Myriad of South and Central American Countries.

singleshotman 01-14-2013 09:36 PM

The swiss ones can be converted to CF and shot-using 348 winchester cases.The original was rimfire.The bullet size is .429dia.Some persons do this, i;ve never owned one myself.


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