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Don M 12-26-2012 03:59 PM

1920-dated DWM P08s with “n” suffixes --- HELP!
 
For a number of years, I have been intrigued by the existence of an apparently nearly complete block of DWM P08s with 1920 manufacture dates on their chambers and “n” suffixes to their serial numbers. (See http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...WMs-w-n-suffix and http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=25334 ) These are counter to the long-held understanding that P08s manufactured in 1920 for the police and Reichswehr had serial numbers with no suffix, “a” or “b” suffixes. No reasonable explanation for this out-of-sequence block of serial numbers has been offered, nor do I have one.

When I received my copy of Görtz & Sturgess’ The Borchart & Luger Automatic Pistols (TBLAP), I hoped that it might shed some light on this mystery. While the authors do offer an explanation, it only deepens the mystery for me. Perhaps someone can help me understand this.

On pp. 530-5 of TBLAP, it is stated that wartime production of P08s by DWM was terminated in the mid-“m” block of serial numbers and that post-war production of P08s for the police and Reichswehr in 1920 picked up at this point and continued into the mid-“n” block using 1918 and 1920-dated receivers before beginning the “no suffix,” “a” and “b” series. This has me baffled. According to Jan Still’s Central Powers Pistols (p. 38), DWM’s 1918 production ran into the “s” block of serial numbers. Also, it is evident from the list I posted in the LugerForum thread above (post #5) that low-number (167) “n” suffix pistols have been observed. Finally, I have not observed a 1920-dated P08 with an “m” suffix. (These should not be confused with “m” suffix P08s manufactured in 1924 with a 1920 property stamp on the chamber --- mostly Landespolizei Thüringen pistols. Some of these have been erroneously reported as 1920-dated.)

Can anyone clarify this for me?

Don M 01-22-2013 12:26 PM

Surely, someone on this forum has some insight into this?

Don M 06-25-2013 05:41 PM

I'm amazed no one has responded to this!

glock30 07-09-2013 08:08 PM

It's a hard question. At least for me. I have a N suffix 20 Commercial. I am not ashamed to admit that I did not know Wiemer Lugers had Letter Suffix's. I had a 1921 Police serial 6098, no letter. Now that I am on it, you will get answers. I thought only commercial Lugers had letters in the serial number. But I do not know everything. That is why i am on here, and if you don't know something, the best way to get a quick response is post an incorrect answer to something.

JRILEYNJ 08-18-2013 07:58 PM

Just joined how do I go about finding info on a Luger I just acquired single date 1920 all matching serial number inspector marks and what i'm guessing is unit numbers for police? (S.Br.L 652.) serial number 2429 and what appears to be a cursive n. under barrell

DavidJayUden 08-18-2013 10:18 PM

The best way to get ingformation is to take and share lots of good photos and start a new thread. You will get responses.
dju

JRILEYNJ 08-18-2013 11:34 PM

Thanks ill get them up tomorrow


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