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NoncomRetired 12-04-2012 08:52 PM

1915 DWM unit markings?
 
1. MG. 21. A. could they be 1st Machine Gun 21(st) Artillery , maybe? Just a guess really

NoncomRetired 12-06-2012 10:39 AM

After some help on another forum thread, I have doen some research on the unit markings. I came across this website of german MG units (in german).

http://www.weltkriegsopfer.de/Verlus...eilen_113.html


as you can see there is only one possibility.

http://www.weltkriegsopfer.de/Inform...s_0_18511.html



Before I found the above website, these unit numbers kept bringing up the Alpine Corps and those numbers did jive...somewhat.

1. MG. 21. A. ..........but there is no Ss after the MG but still it's the closest I've found so far. Anyone have any other suggestions?

Ed

NoncomRetired 12-06-2012 10:55 AM

and then there is this one:

Jäger-Bataillon „Graf Yorck von Wartenburg“ (Ostpreußisches) Nr. 1 Ortelsburg - I. Armee-Korps / XX. Armee-Korps
Maschinengewehr-Abteilung Nr. 1

Jan C Still 12-15-2012 05:54 PM

Ed
Have a 1915 DWM, sn 5622c, unit marked 1.M.G.21. A. which signifies (my best estimate) 1.Machinengewehr-Kompagnie, 21 Armeekorps. See page 267 Central Powers Pistols.

Also have another 1915 DWM, sn 3220c, unit marked 1.M.G.21. A. (lined out) which signifies (my best estimate) 1.Machinengewehr-Kompagnie, 21 Armeekorps.
This unit mark is replaced with JR.60.MGK. Infanterie Regiment 60 Machinengewehr-Kompagnie.

For my data base, what is the serial number of your Luger?

Jan

NoncomRetired 12-15-2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan C Still (Post 225079)
Ed
Have a 1915 DWM, sn 5622c, unit marked 1.M.G.21. A. which signifies (my best estimate) 1.Machinengewehr-Kompagnie, 21 Armeekorps. See page 267 Central Powers Pistols.

Also have another 1915 DWM, sn 3220c, unit marked 1.M.G.21. A. (lined out) which signifies (my best estimate) 1.Machinengewehr-Kompagnie, 21 Armeekorps.
This unit mark is replaced with JR.60.MGK. Infanterie Regiment 60 Machinengewehr-Kompagnie.

For my data base, what is the serial number of your Luger?

Jan

My 1915 is 1011a and unit markings are 1.M.G. 21.A.
My 1916 is 4689a and unit markings are M.G. TR.9. K.

I don't have that book unfortunetly.

CAP Black 12-15-2012 07:37 PM

I'm a numbers guy and that double number deal is a little difficult to comprehend. Man, what are the chances of one person getting that double up???
Jack

Jan C Still 12-15-2012 08:45 PM

Jack
The double (identical) unit mark "1.M.G.21.A." lacks a weapons number and therefore is not a duplication of a complete unit stamp. This is not common but happens.

The 1.M.G.21.A. is also identified as 1.Machinengewehr-Kompagnie, Ausbildungskommando?, 21 Armeekorps. Perhaps some of the unit markings experts on this forum can clear this up.

Also, a similar unit stamp: M.G.A.1.53. has been identified as Machinengewehr-Abteilung Nr. 1, weapon No 53, in official markings regulations.

NoncomRetired
Thanks for the details of your M.G. unit marked Lugers.
Jan

NoncomRetired 02-15-2013 03:28 PM

Also looked into my new book the unit marking 1.M.G.21.A. and I found it exactly as you said but (Scharfschutzen) is added after Machinengewehr. Shame we don't have a weapon's number.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan C Still (Post 225093)
Jack
The double (identical) unit mark "1.M.G.21.A." lacks a weapons number and therefore is not a duplication of a complete unit stamp. This is not common but happens.

The 1.M.G.21.A. is also identified as 1.Machinengewehr-Kompagnie, Ausbildungskommando?, 21 Armeekorps. Perhaps some of the unit markings experts on this forum can clear this up.

Also, a similar unit stamp: M.G.A.1.53. has been identified as Machinengewehr-Abteilung Nr. 1, weapon No 53, in official markings regulations.

NoncomRetired
Thanks for the details of your M.G. unit marked Lugers.
Jan



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