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varifleman 10-31-2012 09:10 AM

Colt Government Model WWI British purchase
 
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I'm posting for your viewing pleasure photos of my British-proofed Colt 1911 Government Model C-13731 made in 1914 and shipped to Colt's London Amoury Agency in late 1914 or 1915. This Colt was property of 1st Lt. G.C. Wilkins as written on the US Model 1912 Cavalry holster which accompanied the pistol. Wilkins was a Harvard grad who was apparently commissioned into the U.S. Army in 1918. Wilkins apparently purchased the pistol sometime after it was shipped to England. I'm currently waiting for more information from the Harvard Crimson about 1st. Lt. Wilkins and the Colt Archive letter for shipment details.

John Sabato 10-31-2012 09:59 AM

N i c e !

Frank 10-31-2012 11:39 AM

VA Guy, What a treasure. Congrats!!!!

padredan 10-31-2012 02:19 PM

outstanding comercial model, it has aged well.

mcg 10-31-2012 03:18 PM

George,
Beautiful Government model and with a history, even better. I see the picture of the chamber area. I understand the Government were polished rather than blued,but I'm not familiar with the markings on the chamber, is that a inspection stamp or just something picked up in the last almost 100 yrs?
Mark

pitsword 10-31-2012 03:50 PM

Very nice, a treasure with that provenance.

Douglas Jr. 10-31-2012 05:54 PM

Man, this is sweetie!
I'm green of envy!!!!
Douglas.

padredan 10-31-2012 05:55 PM

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the gun being shown is a comercial model , which was not an issued military pistol. Not a clue how a comercial model would end up being carried by a military officer when he would be issued one, i will include a few pictures of my 1917 1911 so you maybe able to compare between a comericial and military issue model.

SteveM 10-31-2012 06:34 PM

Nice early commercial, those are my favorite 1911's.

varifleman 11-01-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mcg (Post 222607)
George,
Beautiful Government model and with a history, even better. I see the picture of the chamber area. I understand the Government were polished rather than blued,but I'm not familiar with the markings on the chamber, is that a inspection stamp or just something picked up in the last almost 100 yrs?
Mark

Hi mcg; the markings are London commercial proofs which were required on all pistols imported into the UK. These markings are per the Proof Rules of 1904 and were used from 1904-1925.

varifleman 11-01-2012 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by padredan (Post 222621)
the gun being shown is a comercial model , which was not an issued military pistol. Not a clue how a comercial model would end up being carried by a military officer when he would be issued one, i will include a few pictures of my 1917 1911 so you maybe able to compare between a comericial and military issue model.

Hello paderan; Most of the 4000-plus Colt Government Model pistols in .45 ACP shipped to Colt's London Armoury Agency during WWI were privately purchased by British and other officers. Winston Churchill owned Colt Government Model C15566 and carried it during his service in France when he commanded the 6th Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers in 1916. I have a 1921 Government Model purchased by Lt/Maj H Michaels (as indicated on the 1944 Boyt holster which accompanied the pistol); as soon as I find the photos I'll post them. So apparently many Colt Government Models were purchased by British and U.S. officers and saw service in both World Wars. If anyone has a .455 Webley/Eley barrel I'm looking for one to restore my 1918 British contract RAF Government Model to original specs. P.S. Nice 1917 USGI 1911; any history on it? Thanks for the photos.

padredan 11-01-2012 02:11 PM

Like i said not a clue about most of the early model colts, just that you have an outstanding comercial one. Allso the 1917 GI i have , not a clue on it. bought it a few years back and the owner knew nothing about it either,that happens alot. You havea really nice pistol, hope you find out more about it, thanks for posting.

varifleman 01-26-2013 10:46 AM

According to the Colt Archive letter received after 4 month wait this pistol was one of 300 shipped to the London Armoury Company on November 18, 1914.

kzullick 01-26-2013 12:03 PM

Nice! Thanks for sharing!

varifleman 03-14-2013 09:58 AM

The original owner of this pistol was 1st Lt George Carl Wilkins. He entered Officers' Training Camp at Plattsburg NY in May 1917; commissioned 1st Lt Infantry August 15; assigned to 301st Machine Gun Battalion, 76th Division and sailed for France July 8, 1918. He was transferred to the 146th Machine Gun Battalion, 41st Division on November 9 1918 and returned to the U.S. on February 25, 1919. He transferred to the 153rd Depot Brigade, Camp Dix on 27 February and was discharged on 25 May 1919.

alanint 03-14-2013 10:51 AM

Interesting that these guns were so unknown at the time that it sat on a London retailer's shelf for four years prior to Lt. Wilkins purchasing it, assuming he purchased it new.


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