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coosbaycreep 08-18-2012 01:02 PM

Is this a navy luger?
 
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...r/th_001-1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...r/th_002-1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ger/th_026.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ger/th_022.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...r/th_021-1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...r/th_017-1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...r/th_016-1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ger/th_001.jpg

I've tried researching this luger a lot lately because I was trying to sell it for my dad (I went ahead and got it for myself instead since $650 lugers don't come up for sale in my area very often, plus it will stay in the family awhile longer), but the more research I do, the more confused I am about this gun.

here's a list of the visible markings:
-S/42 on top of toggle
-what looks like a crown with a capital N below it (should be the German "Nitro" commercial proof according to this website) on left side of receiver near where the barrel attaches to receiver
-proof mark on right side of receiver (opposite of the crown proof) that looks like an eagle with some letters or numbers below it. The first letter is a W, but I can't make out the rest of them. It looks like proof number 37 (Waffen Amt (Ordinance Department) proof. Found on receivers of 1930-1933 Mauser and Simson reworks).
-has another small proof that looks like an eagle on left side in front of the toggle
-has a cursive, lower case l below serial number below barrel near the trigger guard
-serial #9475 below barrel
-75 on back of toggle
-75 on top of toggle behind S/42
-takedown lever looks like it originally was stamped 85, but there's a larger 7 partially covering the 8
-9475 on bottom of the mag

From reading on here and other places online, I know it's a commercial luger and it was made by mauser. The barrel is about 5.5" long, which makes me think it's a navy luger, but the rear sights are fixed on mine, unlike all the navy lugers I've seen online.

Reading through some other posts on this forum, I seen another luger that had a numbers matching mag with the same kind of base plate mine does, and someone said it was an east german rework. So is mine the same?

Also, the fact that the takedown lever looks like it was "force matched" by stamping over the 8 with a 7 so the rest of the numbers would match makes me think maybe this is some kind of assembled parts gun or something.

Any info about it would be much appreciated.

thanks

alanint 08-18-2012 02:17 PM

Not a Navy, at least not the typical Navy pistol. Your pistol is a former police pistol, but much better and properly sized photos are necessary to help you more.w

sheepherder 08-21-2012 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by coosbaycreep (Post 218359)
The barrel is about 5.5" long, which makes me think it's a navy luger, but the rear sights are fixed on mine, unlike all the navy lugers I've seen online.

In the past, Numrich sold ~6" barrels in both 7.65 and 9mm caliber. They were fully machined and blued. They looked very well made. I bought one of each and installed them on the two Lugers I had back then. I'm sure others did also.

I'm pretty sure Sarco has advertised them also.

sheepherder 08-21-2012 09:13 AM

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Amateur machinists also make 6" barrels...Sometimes even mark them to the Luger/Lahti/whatever... :eek:

(44-40 Gun Blue doesn't seem to hold up too well after 30 years)... :rolleyes:

coosbaycreep 08-21-2012 01:16 PM

I haven't been able to find the cord for my other camera (which still only takes slightly better pics), but here's a few more pics that might be better than the ones I already posted:
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...r/th_027-1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...r/th_026-1.jpg

here's a link to a bunch more pics as well:http://s248.photobucket.com/albums/g...dzach82/luger/

I'd have to take the gun part again to make sure, but I'm pretty sure the bottom of the barrel on mine was marked with a 75, which matches the last two on the serial number. If it was rebarreled, it looks like it was done at the same time it was reblued/re-arsenaled.

mrerick 08-21-2012 01:21 PM

Hi Zach, it looks like you're posting thumbnails rather than full pictures to this site. Try sizing the pictures to about 1024 pixels across, and re-upload them.

Marc

sheepherder 08-21-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by coosbaycreep (Post 218507)
I'd have to take the gun part again to make sure, but I'm pretty sure the bottom of the barrel on mine was marked with a 75, which matches the last two on the serial number. If it was rebarreled, it looks like it was done at the same time it was reblued/re-arsenaled.

The barrel serial would be visible without disassembly if it were done by an arsenal/depot/refurb, and would be all numbers of the serial (but not the suffix). The number would be right at the flange, on the bottom of the barrel, above the 8,82 land diameter number.

From your PhotoBucket pics, looks like one of the Numrich barrels (which of course would have been sold by other venders as well) which is not a bad thing. I liked mine. Shot good, looked good. :)

coosbaycreep 08-21-2012 01:39 PM

I just uploaded some photos, but I think it went to an album here instead of the thread.

sheepherder 08-21-2012 01:47 PM

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I just uploaded some photos, but I think it went to an album here instead of the thread.

Yup. Close enough! ;)

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....pictureid=2147

Definitely not an OEM barrel. Still nice, though. :thumbup:

Here's a commercial 30 cal barrel on the left; military 9mm cal barrel on the right...(Bottom of barrels)...


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