Amusing luger auctions
 

Rare DWH Artillery luger:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=295811238

Rare DMW luger:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=295405696

I like the DMW Bulgarian mix...kinda cool and only priced a little over 3 times too high.

You might think they would do a little research prior to listing... Perhaps even learning to tell when something is refinished? Just saying...

G2

That's crazy talk :)

These listings remind me of this website http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/ . With each spin of the wheel, these people put together these descriptions from random Luger-related of Luger-sounding words. The words individually may be real, but the way they are used results in an end product that is jibberish with a price tag of $2995.

2000 for a reblued dwh(duetche waffen hackufakturen?

thanks for this thread

Amusing luger auctions

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Rare DWH Artillery luger:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=295811238

Rare DMW luger:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=295405696
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Clark,
You may want to add this auction to your list of "Amusing Luger Auctions" @ www.gunbroker.com item 295626523. For only $3999.99 you can purchase what may be the worst hack job you have ever seen on an Artillery Luger. Sorry I was not able to provide a direct link as you did.

Lon

Link..

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=295626523

What the...???...It has two rear sights! One on the toggle...Navy???...And one on the barrel - Arty... :eek:

Plus the welded lanyard loop...and a ground down and then brazed in stock lug...and...and...

Excuse me...I think I'm going to be sick... :crying:

What's with the crappy, secondary back sight? Is that for shooting over the horizon?

Doug,
You nailed it! That is the rare, late war "indirect fire" Luger used to augment light artillery. It fired a small explosive charge and the welded lanyard loop was actually a reinforcement that allowed it to be attached to a horse drawn caisson. Unfortunately, the pintle hook for towing has been ground off the base of the grip.
The charge was not necessarily lethal, but was usually employed around 4:00 PM against British troops to disturb them during tea. The concept was quickly abandoned since this really ticked off the Brits and made them even more effective...hence the rarity of these pieces. Very few were made and many of them disappeared up the backsides of German artillerymen when the Brits over ran their positions.
Hope this helps.

Thanks, Ron. I just laughed so hard I pooped a little.

(A common malady at my age.) :D

John D.

That's hilarious...I almost spilled my schnapps! :biggulp:

I always wondered what "Harrassing Fire" referred to in the manuals.........

I hate to disagree with Ron, but I believe this is a combination compass/can opener on the rear of the gun. The pintle hitched disturberwerfer was phased out much earlier in the war.

Ha!

I spent about an hour on the Enfield Forum looking for a pic & definition of 'volley fire' rifle sights...Found them...But am still skeptical that any military would not only design & manufacture (and fit) such sights on a rifle...but actually (if accounts can be believed) use them as designed...

Hello Ron!
I am Bulgarian and I am interested in anything that is related to the Bulgarian history. I need help with this Bulgarian Luger.
I don't know where to start :)
1. OK this is obviously not Artillery model but may be Navy.
2. I could not find any data for Navy-Bulgarian model.
3. The barrel was replaced - that is why there is no serial number on the barrel.
4. I was not able to find any info for Bulgarian Luger with barrel longer than 4.75 inch. I found info (and I saw in Bulgaria guns that were re-barreled back in 1910-1948 to 9mm, but they usually have shorter barrel - 100 mm, not longer. Sometimes the barrel will have re-punched serial numbers which was a requirement after the communists come on power and strict control of all guns came on place.
5. The Bulgarian models have the text on the frame for safety in Cyrillic not in German. I cannot see if the loaded chamber indicator has "Loaded" text in Cyrillic nor if it has serial number that is matching the frame.
6. I cannot find reasonable explanation the combination of German text with the Bulgarian Lion stamped on the right side of the barrel housing, Bulgarian crest on the toggle and the matching serial numbers.
7. The gun looks re-polished and refinished - the pitting around the lion bench mark are surrounded by perfect bluing which is only possible if the gun was re-polished and re-finished but the rust damage was too deep. The color of the original bluing is grayish-black and this is more blue-purple The bluing color is typical for the chemical process which was not used when this gun was manufactured.
All these brings me to the main problem - please help me understand what is this and does it have any collectible value. I do have some knowledge in antiques and guns (major in history and archaeology, years of expeditions back in Bulgaria, over 10 years in restoration, appraisal and sales of Greek, Roman and Byzantine antiquities here in the States; 36 years in sport shooting, Assistant National Pistol Coach for US and importer, distributer and service provider for Pardini pistols in US) but I am completely lost here. Or maybe I wish this to be a real Bulgarian Luger too much and don't wont to accept that this is forgery and need your reassurance :)
Thank you and anybody else who can help!
Vladimir Chichkov

Vladimir,
The "Bulgarian" that was for sale on Gunbroker is a custom made assembly of parts from different guns. The frame is probably from a German military piece made after late 1913 (can be dated because of the stock lug). The receiver and toggle assembly are from a 1908 (M11) Bulgarian Luger. The barrel is an aftermarket replacement and the entire gun has been refinished with a salt blue and a set of reproduction grips installed. It is a very attractive item but in no way original. What little collector value it has stems from the fairly scarce Bulgarian receiver and toggle assembly. As it is, it is valued only as a "shooter" and top dollar would be around $800 because it is so nicely done and the long barrel is nice for shooting.
I hope this answers your questions :)
Ron

Thank you Ron!
What a disappointment :) Well, I will have to wait for other Bulgarian to show up, hopefully with purer blood :)
Any idea where can I look for one?
Have a great day!
Vl.