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alvin 06-19-2012 05:37 PM

Another Mauser
 
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Saw this one on gunbroker.com back a few days ago. From the description, seller was obviously a collector. The asking price was not low, but around book value. No one wanted it. Considering I don't have one like this, so I picked it up. It arrived quickly, looks super nice with near perfect matching oak stock.

Most bolo had nothing to do with Russian Bolshevik, but the exotic nickname stayed in the community. In the same way, most "French Gendarme C96" had nothing to do with neither French nor any Gendarme (I believe some instances did serve French military police, nickname had a hint), but the nickname is now universally used to describe this variation of large grip short barrel early postwar C96. "Germany" export stamp on left side frame, it's probably sold to American in early 1920s.

sheepherder 06-19-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by alvin (Post 215294)
"French Gendarme C96"...nickname is now universally used to describe this variation of large grip short barrel early postwar C96.

Is that true??? I've never heard of this particular term...Good to know... :)

Hey Alvin - You going to be bidding on that 45 cal Chinese C96 at RIAC this month??? If you're not, I will...It's Lot # 408...

alvin 06-19-2012 08:33 PM

#408, I saw a pair of guns. If we look from another angle, they can be considered being variations from broader sense. Those are classified as C&R, although they were newly assembled.

I could have acquired one .45ACP, but I keep skipping it, feeling any time I want to get one, I can get one because it's available for sale almost every month (if not every week). So not urgent at all. Every month I pray to God "what I am looking for won't appear this month, so I can take a break". See, under this mood, I won't bid on #408. Please go ahead getting them.

var99 06-19-2012 09:41 PM

HI Alvin
Is this one that had a matching stock as well?
Vince

alvin 06-20-2012 05:36 AM

Yes. It comes with an oak stock in excellent shape numbered to the gun. I have met a few "French" in the past few years, but looks like only a few "Germany" marked FG coming with stocks.

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There are three split-hair subvariations FG. Some have "GERMANY" (all uppercase letters) on right side of the frame. Some have "Germany" (like this one, #433230) on left side of the frame. Some do not have export stamp (had a chance being used by French). Except that, other features are same.

var99 06-20-2012 09:28 PM

I have #432983, which is also Germany marked, don't recall which font, no stock. The interesting thing about this run is that all the ones I have seen that have stocks have Oak ones, I don't think that that shows up on any other model?

alvin 06-20-2012 09:41 PM

I have seen very late Red 9s with oak stocks. I had a couple of Bolos serial in 44, 45 hundred thousand ranges (one sold), both came with walnut stocks though.

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Mr. Antaris' book "Astra Firearms" shows a 44x,xxx coming with oak stock. It's safe to say oak stock started very late in Red 9, and stopped very early post war in Bolo.

Douglas Jr. 06-22-2012 08:12 AM

Alvin,

Nice addition for sure.Congratulations!
I 'm always partial to hard rubber grips. Find them charming.

Douglas

sheepherder 06-22-2012 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Douglas Jr. (Post 215417)
Nice addition for sure.Congratulations!
I 'm always partial to hard rubber grips. Find them charming.

Whoa! I messed that...Good catch! (My IBM monitor always shows too dark). :mad:

Is it safe to say that hard rubber grips --> Police/Military issue???

Edit: Now that I've seen the hard rubber grips...I want a set!!! Checked GB and found these - but the emblem and borders are different...

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/2927100...x689308221.jpg

I wonder if your FG C96 grips are specific to that variation???

BTW: That front sight blade looks different from my C96's...Mine all have the front 'point' rounded...that one looks squared off...(If that's unclear, I can post a pic)...

sheepherder 06-22-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by alvin (Post 215316)
I could have acquired one .45ACP, but I keep skipping it...Please go ahead getting them.

I just put in my bid, but I don't expect to win. I don't believe any sealed/email bid can win. You either have to be there or have a superfast broadband connection and bid in realtime. I bid on a second lot as well, but again, no confidence. :rolleyes:

...But this will get me future catalogs... :p

alvin 06-22-2012 06:17 PM

Postie, I believe the front sight is good, but the color of bore-stores bag mixes with foreground gun. Having said that, I will fetch the gun over the weekend to make sure.

The rubber grip panels... remember that vL&D Shallow Milled Panel LRH that I posted at the beginning of the year? That one has this grip pattern.

The panels that you posted were another pattern, I saw that pattern on a few original Flatside LRHs. I guess this particular pair being replica? the look and feel of them on picture is .... too coarse, not Mausr quality, but the general shape is close enough.

Anyway, hard rubber grip by itself had nothing to do with military.

alvin 06-22-2012 06:33 PM

Regarding bidding on RIAC #408, sounds like you're not very hot on it, but "warm".... they had an assessment, low $$ - high $$ range. Bidding at low end then, if someone else wants it, you do not win but that's fine, you saved money. If no one else wants it, then it's yours. Bidding lower than estimate is another option, but the chance fades on this particular one.... for unknown reason, the market is hot on those .45ACP Broomhandle. Why? I don't know.

sheepherder 06-22-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alvin (Post 215439)
Postie, I believe the front sight is good...

I'm not saying it isn't, just that I've never seen square corners on both ends (the tops, of course). I haven't looked at as many as you either. Have you seen other C96/M30/Bolo front blades with both square corners??? It may just be the angle and the lighting...

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Originally Posted by alvin (Post 215440)
Regarding bidding on RIAC #408, sounds like you're not very hot on it, but "warm"...

I like the idea of the detachable magazine, and a 45 C96 would be a displayable novelty...Almost a collectible...I thought it was a rather low estimate for the two, and I can live with or without them...

Ya pays yer money an ya takes yer chances... :D

alvin 06-23-2012 12:09 PM

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I just checked the front sight more carefully. Doesn't this FG's front sight look right?

sheepherder 06-23-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by alvin (Post 215465)
Doesn't this FG's front sight look right?

Yes it does. :)

alvin 06-29-2012 08:40 PM

Postie, I just looked up, Lot 408 was sold today. Did you win it?

sheepherder 06-29-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alvin (Post 215783)
Postie, I just looked up, Lot 408 was sold today. Did you win it?

RIAC Friday Auction Notification.

None of your bids were successful for today's items. If you have bids for items in the remaining two days of the auction you will be notified after each auction day.

We sincerely thank you for participating and helping us have a successful auction.

If you would like to see the prices realized for this auction it will be posted on the website soon after the auction is over.


...Evidently not... :crying:

ithacaartist 06-30-2012 10:40 AM

Hmmm...

I received the same email this AM. Bids were for other lots, tho.


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