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OK, how about some help here?
I noticed this one on E-bay, but am confused. Stamped 1934 AND P38. What gives?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...AMOTORS%3A1123 dju |
Made in Pakistan? Perhaps the day we found Bin Laden? (It appears not...)
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Everything about the holster looks right, but the P38 stamp is a total mystery. The P38 was still being designed in 1934
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P-38
Im curious as to what year the P-38 was finally issued.?....I had originally thought it wasn't until around 1942......but then Ive seen some ads on Gunbrokers...etc...for 1941 era P-38s...and have been thinking of picking up a 1941 P-38 after I get thru my search for a good DWM 1918......anyway...what is the consensus on the issue date of the P-38.?..
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The first "P38s" (actually commerically designated the HP until German military acceptance in 1940) were shipped to Sweden in 1939. TH
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So, getting back to the holster. A complete fake? Maybe re-worked and re-issued for a P38? Maybe the seller photo'ed 2 holsters by mistake?
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Do my eyes deceive me/optical illusion, or does the magazine pouch appear to be P38 size. See below: First photo is back of this holster; second photo is another Luger holster. In another auction photo, it does seem to show the cutouts for the luger mag base at the top of the mag pouch.
I posted it on the P38 forum for comments. Sorry for drawing attention to it if it is some super rare holster. Proof of Nazi time travel! |
I am far, far from knowledgable on holsters but from an observation from reading 3rd Reich Lugers around page 110-111 and an example shown on p.124, it makes mention of ALL holsters in 1934 and some of 35 to have an extra flap over the takedown tool for a patches and a cleaning rod. The example being discussed with the P38 stamp doesn't appear to show that from what I am seeing.
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Searching around the web, other pictures of 1934 holsters from the same manufacturer had the cleaning rod "slot" and flap.
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From Greg "Steve Papp" on P38 Forum:
"I looked at that auction and if you zoom on the pic you can see it is a pic from a totally different holster and I believe it says cxb 42. The mag pouch lengths are obviously(to me anyway) different if you look closely. With that said I think both are legit holsters as I have yet to see a holster that has replicated that goofy 2 that looks more like a question mark on cxb 42's! Maybe the seller forgot to get a pic of the back of the luger holster and used the p38 holster or maybe they simply mixed up the pictures?" Clark |
Clark,
I had the thought that the ad might have photos from two different holsters. Glad Greg adds credibility to that notion. I was hesitant to make that call because I freely admit I know very little about WWII stuff. (made after 1918 you know :)) |
Clark, From Greg "Steve Papp" on P38 Forum:
Greg is right on the money. The cut/shape of the back, the way the front lid comes way down, no stitching at the right bottom of the left belt loop..deffinately an original P-38 holster and does not belong to the 1934! Guy just got mixed up.. |
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