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a d connell 02-18-2002 08:25 PM

08 luger
 
I have a Luger pistol:

serial# 67XX, all parts match

7.65 caliber

stock lug low on the grip

no date stamp; GERMANY stamp

a crown with the letter N:

horizontal on the reciever,

vertical on the barrel and in front of the trigger

also on the barrel and in front of the trigger is what looks

like a small case "n" with curly start and finish legs

under the safety is the word GESICHERT

The pistol is is 90 to 95 percent. Original bluing, walnut grips without much wear. The magazine has no marks but has the wood grip at the bottom. I have looked all over for the American Eagleand to no avail. I have a black fold over holster wih a not original clip in it (aluminum grip with a Mexico stamp) I am not very knowledgeble in the Luger

fieldand would appreciate any information on history and

estimated worth.

So far the info I have collected is full of holes:(see below)

Serial no. indicates a 1900 model.

The gesichert marking under the safety was only listed in the 1906 models.

The Germany stamp indicates this pistol wa simported to the US (no eagle)

Thanks for any help;

Dale




Dok 02-18-2002 08:38 PM

Re: 08 luger
 
Welcome to the Luger Forum Dale,


I can supply some of the info you are looking for, but other more knowledgeable members will undoutedly do a better job.


Your serial number is 67xxn (the "n" is part of the and the fact that the chamber is undate would seem to indicate that you have a Commercial Luger. You also didn't mention that all the small parts have the XX from the serial number on them, this wou;ld also indicate a Commercial Luger.


Gesichert (meaning "Safe") appeared on many Lugers not just the 1906 variation.


The Germany stamp indicates for EXPORT, not that it was imported into the US (although it probably was)


Hope this helps some.


Dok




Orv Reichert 02-18-2002 09:07 PM

luger
 
Your gun is most likely what is known as a '1920 Commercial' as they were made up after WW-1 for sale in the US. [expecially those marked GERMANY in English]


Most, in compliance with the laws imposed on Germany at the end of the war, will have a barrel slightly less than 4 inches long....like, 3-7/8 inches and will be in 7,65 cal.


Most used a military frame which is why they have a 4 digit number with an alpha suffix.


Values are limited as each gun is different...depending on the parts used to make them up. [they were made up from new/used parts]


In mint condition, they bring about $800-$900 but most collectors are not 'turned on' by them!


I find them an interesting variation...but, I am a nut, I am told!


Orv Reichert






Milton 02-18-2002 09:36 PM

Re: luger
 
Orv is right, as usual, but he neglected to say that this is about the most common Luger to be found, and is often in excellent condition, as they usually were not used very much. Nevertheless, no collection is complete without one, so they do frequently find a buyer.




Lonnie Zimmerman 02-18-2002 10:50 PM

Re: luger
 
I don"t know anything about your gun, but I can tell you the worst Luger magazine I ever had was made in Mexico. The spring was so bad it felt like almost no spring at all!!

I took it to the shipyard and threw it in a pile of steel to be scraped.


Lonnie




a d connell 02-19-2002 09:30 AM

Re: luger
 
Thanks all for the input:

the barrel is short 3 5/8

and I am not surprised on the value.

I just recieved this gun as a gift

and was curious due to all the many

variations that only a Luger collector

would know. Thanks again.

Dale




tom h 02-19-2002 11:08 AM

Re: luger
 
Dale, Your "Mexico" marked PO8 mag with the aluminum follower is an early triple K mag from years ago. They are now making much better ones. Your 1920 commerical luger's suffix letter may very be a "P" if the right verticle leg extends lower than the left one. Tom h




JOHN KERMOS 02-20-2002 03:03 PM

Re: luger
 
I also have a Luger with the same size barrel & caliber.

There is no date on this model only markings are on the bottom of the barrel crown-n, 5939 (serial #) and the letter "M". the right side of the reciever is stamped made in Germany. All of the smaller parts are stamped "39" and there are no markings on the clip.







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