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DavidJayUden 05-18-2012 09:50 AM

Carbine for sale
 
Saw this one on GA.com this morning.
http://www.gunsamerica.com//97417400...stock.htm?wl=1

dju

Ron Wood 05-18-2012 11:07 AM

Nice looking example but a serial number of 116 doesn't make sense unless they only posted the last three digits.

Douglas Jr. 05-18-2012 10:08 PM

They updated the ad: full serial number is given on description as 24116.

DavidJayUden 05-18-2012 11:39 PM

They must watch the Luger forum...
dju

Ben M. 05-20-2012 10:46 AM

interesting price. a few years back i think the bob simpson shop would have priced one like this at nearly $ 18,000 or more. maybe an outcome of the economy still being in the crapper.

lugercollector 05-20-2012 03:39 PM

Do you think the Finish is original?

ithacaartist 05-21-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lugercollector (Post 213593)
Do you think the Finish is original?

One of the first things I look at is the retaining pin in the toggle knob's top. This one looks blued; it should be in the white. Can't tell much about haloes on the stampings from the pics. The edges appear fairly sharp, with a little wear of the finish. Nice job, if refinished.

Oops. Ron knows the real scoop (see below). Sorry for the mis-information!

Ron Wood 05-21-2012 11:16 AM

A 1902 does not have a retaining pin in the toggle knob. The axle pin is retained by the toggle lock.

lugercollector 05-21-2012 11:25 AM

Ron...Whats your opinion on the originality of the Luger?...Thanks

Ron Wood 05-21-2012 12:53 PM

From the photos it looks really good, The straw may or may not have been touched up. The holes in the buttplate may be wormholes in the original horn or they may be casting bubbles in a resin reproduction.

As always, originality can only be determined from hands-on inspection (and sometimes not even then :)). Gut feel is that the gun is OK but still needs to be in hand to tell.

lugercollector 05-21-2012 01:14 PM

Thanks Ron....I also think it looks pretty good...but,hands on is the best!!

sheepherder 05-21-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 213614)
One of the first things I look at is the retaining pin in the toggle knob's top...

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 213619)
A 1902 does not have a retaining pin in the toggle knob...

...Then David would go on to the second thing he looks at... :D

Is the price representative???

Oooohhh...It has a stock lug...I likee... ;)

But no Schnabel nose on the foregrip...And I'm not a fan of the ski-jump front sight ramp... :(

I'm sorry...But my money will stay under my mattress...

Just a quick question - I know the carbines were made up from donors/parts, but would an original 1902 donor Luger have had a stock lug???

cirelaw 05-21-2012 03:39 PM

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It was monthe before I found the serial number hidden a 'GERMANY' up to then I thought the :31" was it!

Ron Wood 05-21-2012 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 213631)
...But no Schnabel nose on the foregrip...And I'm not a fan of the ski-jump front sight ramp... :(

Just a quick question - I know the carbines were made up from donors/parts, but would an original 1902 donor Luger have had a stock lug???

It does have a Schnabel (not a good photo, forearm end not clearly visible in the shadows, but the schnabel is there). 1902 Carbines were not made up from donors/parts, they were original manufacture and had a stock lug to attach the shoulder stock...that is why it is a "carbine". You are thinking of the 1920 Carbines that were "assembled"...oh, and they had stock lugs and stocks too.

cirelaw 05-23-2012 08:17 PM

Ron Were There Differces As You Refer to?
 
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Also Do you know what kind of wood was used! Thank you for all your help over a number of years. Eric

Ron Wood 05-23-2012 10:17 PM

The differences are numerous, too many to try to address in this thread. Look at your library of Luger references and you can quickly determine the differences between a 1902 and a 1920 Carbine. The stocks were made of walnut.

sheepherder 05-24-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 213777)
...The stocks were made of walnut.

Any special kind of Walnut??? I've read references to [sic] Sircassian Walnut and Black Walnut...Was the Luger carbine considered a high-end item worth of special furniture???

cirelaw 05-24-2012 09:12 AM

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Was there any model have such beautiful wood?

Kitkat041836 05-24-2012 09:26 AM

It look good to me also,but I also would need it in hand to be
sure. Thanks George:thumbup:

cirelaw 05-24-2012 12:39 PM

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Some day maybe Ill fire my 9mm. Just recently Jerry found me an original leather carbine sling!


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