.38 Luger
 

How many of these did they make this mistake on Vlim?

not only that but what is 9MM paraod?

Only Vlim knows. It is on this page here, obviously a very early example http://www.forgottenweapons.com/the-...-mausers-luger
I thought it was an honest thing at first being a 9mm is .355 and a .38 is really .357 so I thought it was real thing, like a Euro way of saying 9mm in English. But it was a mistake.

No doubt about it..a rare variation!

It is a geniune mistake (and a bit of a thickheaded one, you'd suspect that Mauser knew what a 9mm looked like...). The photo shows one of the 'mock up' pistols that were actually Swiss 06/29 pistols, dressed up to look like Mauser Parabellums, one being converted to 9mm. Only 3 were reworked for press presentation purposes, one is currently in the hands of a US collector. These 3 were numbered as 10.00.10, 10.00.11 and 10.00.12. The last one was originally Swiss pistol P78220.

Apart from those 'reworked' Swiss pistols, the Mauser R&D departement built a few Swiss style pistols by hand from the drawings Mauser acquired.

Shown here is a remark on the original blueprint that was sent to Sam Cummings of Interarms for approval. He pointed out the mistake in caliber designation, but missed the other one. Ever heard of the caliber '.22 para' ? ;)

Wow, what a goof! The "9mmod. 38 Luger" is actually "9mm od. 38 Luger" (note the space beteen mm and od.) The od. is an abbrevialtion for "oder" or "or" in English. I will go along with thickheaded...you have to wonder what dimwit at Mauser thought "38" was the proper equivalent.

Interesting, considering WW2 MP40 magazines use "U" as a designation for "or". MP40 magazines are marked;

"MP38 U MP40"

I'm reading the article and noticed something familiar...Someone here posted pics/link to a Luger with a lathe-turned chamber area and extended barrel flange like the one shown in the article (that article pic is below)... :eek:

Anybody recall the thread??? :confused:

I think the "U" is an abbreviation for "und" meaning "and"...it works for both.

Hi:

I agree with the "dimwit" label, though not for this reason.

The dimwit label would apply to the marketing team that thought Swiss style Lugers would sell in the US in the first place!!!!

".38 Luger" was a standard commercial designation for the standard 9mm Parabellum, as we currently know and love it, here in the U.S.

Remington, and I believe Winchester, labeled and headstamped ".38 Luger" for commercial sale, right here in the United States, during the 1920s and 1930s.

Sieger

You are absolutely right on both.

Just a WAG , I think "od" might be "oder" German for "or" abbreviated. "9mm Para "or" 38 Luger

And that is correct also :)