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tbone176 03-02-2012 10:35 PM

WW II bring back
 
Hi everyone,

My question is, if a 1939 P08 has Nazi proof marks and no import stamps, does that mean (with a high degree of certainty) that it is a WWII bring back. I understand that most anybody could acquire the tools to make a fake, but outside of that, would those two conditions most likely mean a bring back?

Thanks

alanint 03-02-2012 11:05 PM

There is a good chance this is a bring-back. Extensive photos would help, including detasiled photos of the gun's rails, where some of the kinder importers placed their stamps..

DavidJayUden 03-02-2012 11:28 PM

Am I mistaken or did imports not require marks prior to the GCA of 1968?

padredan 03-02-2012 11:30 PM

HMMM, not sure , but i think you maybe right about that.

Edward Tinker 03-02-2012 11:59 PM

yes, from what I understand, there were tens of thousands of lugers imported after the war that were not import marked.


Ed

padredan 03-03-2012 12:06 AM

yes, the import stamps and the points system on importation began with the 68 gca

tbone176 03-03-2012 09:31 AM

Ok, thanks everyone..I will post pix when I can. So would it be safe to say that a 39 P08 with Nazi proofs would have probably been used in the war, but not necessarily captured by an allied soldier. How do you tell military issued P08 from those that were issued to police?

tbone176 03-03-2012 09:34 AM

Another question, did Luger production stop with the end of the war or did some other country besides Nazi Germany make pistols after the war that could have been imported w/o import stamps before 68?

alvin 03-03-2012 09:48 AM

I heard story saying people add one or two Lugers into trading to make a gun deal fair in 1950s or 60s (?). That story, if true, it must be hard for new Luger production to make any profit at that time. If the receiver is 1939 marked, it's most likely a bring-back. If comes with capture paper, that piece of paper worth some money. If not, it's by imagination, bring-back could be true, but verbal story's value is ...... at least should not be counted. More importantly, it must be original and matching, if asking premium.

alanint 03-03-2012 12:36 PM

The French assembled some pistols post war out of parts and then Mauser offered first refurbished, then new production pistols in the 70s,80s. All those would be obvious for what they were.
Remember that occupying troops post war were bringing back boatloads of this stuff, as were Interarms and other importers. After 1968 all these imports required markings.

tbone176 03-03-2012 03:16 PM

Thanks everyone..I will be posting pix when I can..I appreciate the opportunity to learn from all of you.

Jack moss 12-05-2024 01:13 PM

have 2 spreewerks with early numbers and eagles stamped on world war 11 guns in great shape. who is the most knowledgeable on these , I'm trying to guess the worth as I have someone interested in them and I had them since 1956.i m now almost 90.
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Kiwi 12-05-2024 02:11 PM

Jack - better to have started a new post but... I will just be the first to say that the knowledgeable people will just ask you to post detailed photos.

rhuff 12-05-2024 02:11 PM

Jack,
This thread is 12 YEARS OLD!! You will have better luck if you start a new thread. Give it a try.


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